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Re: Chris Murray letter to editor

Post by LongTimeCatFan » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:13 pm

wbtfg wrote:
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wbtfg wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:
CatBlitz wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote: Here’s what I see. I see African-American unemployment at a 17 year low.

Policy wise, Trump is doing more for minority CITIZENS, than anyone in the past 30 years.
What policies? What exactly has Trump himself done? All I see is him taking credit for Obama's 8 years of work.

Unemployment since 2010:
2010: 9.8
2011: 9.1
2012: 8.3
2013: 8.0
2014: 6.6
2015: 5.7
2016: 4.9

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2017: 4.8
2018: 4.1


The African-American unemployment rate had already fallen to 7.7% (down from 16.8% in March, 2010) by the time Trump took his oath. Love this quote: "Trump taking credit for this is is like a rooster thinking the sun came up because he crowed."
Now wait a minute, you can’t have it both ways. Most of the left (I’m not gonna search your posts) said if Trump was elected the economy would crash and unemployment across all demographics would rise. That’s clearly not the case.

What policies? cutting the red tape at a ratio of 22:1

Unemployment at a 45 year low, over 200k new manufacturing jobs alone, the biggest tax cuts in American history, average family income is up by $4,000 dollars, and all of this because of less government regulation.
I honestly can’t stand Trump. But you have to give this to him.


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I didn’t see anyone on the left suggest that trump would crash the economy. I guess the closest I saw to that was saying he would roll back banking regulations put in place after the housing collapse of 2008 and were fearful that could lead to another housing collapse.

The left has had many issues with Trump, I don’t think the economy was ever in the top 10.


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Just one example

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/pro ... ic-fallout


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I’m sure there are examples, I’m just saying that wasn’t one of the main fears being trumpeted by “most of the left”.


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Perception is reality and I’m not questioning your perception. It’s quite possible that you as an individual on the left didn’t think Trump would crash the economy. But yes, most of the people I know on the left used that as a concern.


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Re: Chris Murray letter to editor

Post by CatBlitz » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:42 pm

LongTimeCatFan wrote:
CatBlitz wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote: Here’s what I see. I see African-American unemployment at a 17 year low.

Policy wise, Trump is doing more for minority CITIZENS, than anyone in the past 30 years.
What policies? What exactly has Trump himself done? All I see is him taking credit for Obama's 8 years of work.

Unemployment since 2010:
2010: 9.8
2011: 9.1
2012: 8.3
2013: 8.0
2014: 6.6
2015: 5.7
2016: 4.9

------------
2017: 4.8
2018: 4.1


The African-American unemployment rate had already fallen to 7.7% (down from 16.8% in March, 2010) by the time Trump took his oath. Love this quote: "Trump taking credit for this is is like a rooster thinking the sun came up because he crowed."
Now wait a minute, you can’t have it both ways. Most of the left (I’m not gonna search your posts) said if Trump was elected the economy would crash and unemployment across all demographics would rise. That’s clearly not the case.

What policies? cutting the red tape at a ratio of 22:1

Unemployment at a 45 year low, over 200k new manufacturing jobs alone, the biggest tax cuts in American history, average family income is up by $4,000 dollars, and all of this because of less government regulation.
I honestly can’t stand Trump. But you have to give this to him.


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I never said he'd crash the economy. I'll "give him" whatever you want that he hasn't but in one year, you can't say that much of he's done has helped the unemployment rate that Obama didn't already have a hand in. Trump claiming it's all him is just grandiose self-pandering.


Don't let this distract you from the fact that the griz blew a 22-0 lead.

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Re: Chris Murray letter to editor

Post by LongTimeCatFan » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:46 pm

CatBlitz wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:
CatBlitz wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote: Here’s what I see. I see African-American unemployment at a 17 year low.

Policy wise, Trump is doing more for minority CITIZENS, than anyone in the past 30 years.
What policies? What exactly has Trump himself done? All I see is him taking credit for Obama's 8 years of work.

Unemployment since 2010:
2010: 9.8
2011: 9.1
2012: 8.3
2013: 8.0
2014: 6.6
2015: 5.7
2016: 4.9

------------
2017: 4.8
2018: 4.1


The African-American unemployment rate had already fallen to 7.7% (down from 16.8% in March, 2010) by the time Trump took his oath. Love this quote: "Trump taking credit for this is is like a rooster thinking the sun came up because he crowed."
Now wait a minute, you can’t have it both ways. Most of the left (I’m not gonna search your posts) said if Trump was elected the economy would crash and unemployment across all demographics would rise. That’s clearly not the case.

What policies? cutting the red tape at a ratio of 22:1

Unemployment at a 45 year low, over 200k new manufacturing jobs alone, the biggest tax cuts in American history, average family income is up by $4,000 dollars, and all of this because of less government regulation.
I honestly can’t stand Trump. But you have to give this to him.


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I never said he'd crash the economy. I'll "give him" whatever you want that he hasn't but in one year, you can't say that much of he's done has helped the unemployment rate that Obama didn't already have a hand in. Trump claiming it's all him is just grandiose self-pandering.
I’ll give O credit for stabilization. Even though that was mostly the Fed. But ya better buckle up, because what Trump and the R’s have set into motion is going to make everyone including you very happy. And that IS going to be Trump, not Obama.


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Re: Chris Murray letter to editor

Post by 77matcat » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:19 pm

Hmmmmm reduced regulation and unbridled enthusiasm.

Worked well in the late 20s and early 30s.




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Post by LongTimeCatFan » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:48 pm

77matcat wrote:Hmmmmm reduced regulation and unbridled enthusiasm.

Worked well in the late 20s and early 30s.




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Which was pre-Keynesian Federal Reserve manipulations. [emoji849]


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Chris Murray letter to editor

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77matcat wrote:Hmmmmm reduced regulation and unbridled enthusiasm.

Worked well in the late 20s and early 30s.




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Which was pre-Keynesian Federal Reserve manipulations. [emoji849]


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Controlling government expenditures nor the money supply stopped the irrational exuberance in the real estate mkt that blew-up into the 2008 depression.

Failure to regulate the financial mkt (default credit swaps to be specific) did significantly play into the mix.

Should we let the utilities charge what they wish.


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77matcat wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:
77matcat wrote:Hmmmmm reduced regulation and unbridled enthusiasm.

Worked well in the late 20s and early 30s.




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Which was pre-Keynesian Federal Reserve manipulations. [emoji849]


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Controlling government expenditures nor the money supply stopped the irrational exuberance in the real estate mkt that blew-up into the 2008 depression.

Failure to regulate the financial mkt (default credit swaps to be specific) did significantly play into the mix.

Should we let the utilities charge what they wish.


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Those of us that have Avista for our electric provider sure are upset that they have filed to LOWER, DECREASE our electrical rates!!!



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Post by 77matcat » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:20 am

Bastards


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Re: Chris Murray letter to editor

Post by 77matcat » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:22 am

Should read their filing. Most probably has to do with Auto Pass Through expenses decreasing.


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Re: Chris Murray letter to editor

Post by 77matcat » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:22 am

Also occasionally happens in NWE and MDU territory.

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Re: Chris Murray letter to editor

Post by LongTimeCatFan » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:17 pm

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02- ... soaring-54

5.4% GDP growth in the first quarter predicted by the ATL FED.

Give it up Blitz... that ain’t Obama


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Re: Chris Murray letter to editor

Post by 77matcat » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:59 pm

GDP grew by 42% in the 20s. Yea!!!!! The very definition of irrational exuberance. From 29 to 34 GDP gave up most of what it gained.


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Re: Chris Murray letter to editor

Post by allcat » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:47 pm

77matcat wrote:GDP grew by 42% in the 20s. Yea!!!!! The very definition of irrational exuberance. From 29 to 34 GDP gave up most of what it gained.


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Do you really believe what you are writing, or are you just prodding ltcf?


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Post by 77matcat » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:06 am

Just history.


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Post by RickRund » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:09 am

The Depression of 1920 was not fixed by the moves of O but by some of the policies of DJT...



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Post by 77matcat » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:30 am

29. Right


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Post by RickRund » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:38 am

77matcat wrote:29. Right


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Re: Chris Murray letter to editor

Post by 77matcat » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:26 pm

Stk mkt crash of 1929 was beginning of Great Depression that many feel didn’t end till we entered WWII


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77matcat wrote:Stk mkt crash of 1929 was beginning of Great Depression that many feel didn’t end till we entered WWII


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And you are blaming Trump for that?


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Chris Murray letter to editor

Post by 77matcat » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:51 pm

Pretty sure I didn’t blame Trump for the Great Depression.

I don’t give him all the credit for the current mkt either. Tons of stuff to read on how long it take to affect the mkt. His jaw boning has effected short term emotional purchasing and tax breaks may / should develop long term effects.

I am hopeful they are sustainable and don’t fire up inflation a great deal.


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