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Re: Spring Basketball recruiting

Postby 91catAlum on Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:27 am

hokeyfine wrote:http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2017/04/kavell_bigby-williams_has_been.html#incart_2box
any thoughs mslacat? would he entertain coming here?

Read the 3 posts above yours.
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Re: Spring Basketball recruiting

Postby mslacat on Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:22 am

In about Late February or early March I got an PM Twitter message from Bigby-Williams and he asked me NEVER to mention again that he had or was a commit to Montana State as he had no intention of signing with us now that his recruitment was blowing up. He went on to explain that those type of tweets were only confusing potential school schools who wanted to recruit him. He also said MSU was always his back-up plan. Colter/Skyline sports interviewed him just a short time later and he told Colter that he never like MSU or Bozeman he only committed there/he becuase of his limited options coming out of high school and now that he had option there is no way he would ever sign with MSU (this is para-phrasing because I am too lazy to go back and look up the article). The deal was done.

Bigby, 12 months ago, was one of those kids who wanted to go to the biggest school possible for his ego and so he could tell all of his friends. We wll as many kids have found being in the spot light has its problems He came in as Oregon's 2nd JC Player of the year over the past 2 years. The 1st was Chris Boucher the previous year who had an immediate impact on the program starting at center and being named to the All Pac-12 team as a junior. The people at Oregon were expecting the same out of Bigby. Oregon was loaded at the 4 and 5 spot this year and as you can see from his stat line did not get much playing time. Even when Boucher was lost for the season and every one proclaimed it was time for Bigby to step up, the coaches never really gave him the opportunity. The fans were worce. All the message boards and twitter type outlet were calling him a bust, should have signed with Montana State ect. expectations were high and they did not feel he delivered.

I tell this story to explain how I feel. If Bigby is still in the same mindset as last year he will not be happy here, nor do I think he will even give MSU a look. If he has changed his mind and would like to go to a school where he could be a big fish in a small pond and he could be happy with that, I would entertain the idea. If I were a mentor or adviser who he trusted and was truly looking out for his best interest I would tell him to contact MSU. You know the coaches, they like you and you like them you could dominate at the Big Sky level go out your senior year with a bang. Bigby and Tyler Hall wow! Now as Bob Robinson looking at my Bobcats that I know and love, I worry whether Bigby will fit in. I have said it before Fish does not do well with one and done transfers, maybe sitting out a year will help thought. Does Bigby have the maturity to really be coached hard? Will he be happy here? I have mixed feeling, but if he did sign we really would not be out a lot. We do not NEED him for next year nor the following. This team is mature enough I don't think he can hurt team chemistry, so why not.

I can tell you this. I have heard from a couple sources that Fish and his coaches are taking this transfer possibility real seriously and will at least throw their hat in the ring to see if there is any interest. Enough so they may have put a few other recruiting possibilities on a temporarily hold.
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Re: Spring Basketball recruiting

Postby hokeyfine on Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:27 am

91catAlum wrote:
hokeyfine wrote:http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2017/04/kavell_bigby-williams_has_been.html#incart_2box
any thoughs mslacat? would he entertain coming here?

Read the 3 posts above yours.

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Re: Spring Basketball recruiting

Postby CatBlitz on Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:26 pm

mslacat wrote:In about Late February or early March I got an PM Twitter message from Bigby-Williams and he asked me NEVER to mention again that he had or was a commit to Montana State as he had no intention of signing with us now that his recruitment was blowing up. He went on to explain that those type of tweets were only confusing potential school schools who wanted to recruit him. He also said MSU was always his back-up plan. Colter/Skyline sports interviewed him just a short time later and he told Colter that he never like MSU or Bozeman he only committed there/he becuase of his limited options coming out of high school and now that he had option there is no way he would ever sign with MSU (this is para-phrasing because I am too lazy to go back and look up the article). The deal was done.

Bigby, 12 months ago, was one of those kids who wanted to go to the biggest school possible for his ego and so he could tell all of his friends. We wll as many kids have found being in the spot light has its problems He came in as Oregon's 2nd JC Player of the year over the past 2 years. The 1st was Chris Boucher the previous year who had an immediate impact on the program starting at center and being named to the All Pac-12 team as a junior. The people at Oregon were expecting the same out of Bigby. Oregon was loaded at the 4 and 5 spot this year and as you can see from his stat line did not get much playing time. Even when Boucher was lost for the season and every one proclaimed it was time for Bigby to step up, the coaches never really gave him the opportunity. The fans were worce. All the message boards and twitter type outlet were calling him a bust, should have signed with Montana State ect. expectations were high and they did not feel he delivered.

I tell this story to explain how I feel. If Bigby is still in the same mindset as last year he will not be happy here, nor do I think he will even give MSU a look. If he has changed his mind and would like to go to a school where he could be a big fish in a small pond and he could be happy with that, I would entertain the idea. If I were a mentor or adviser who he trusted and was truly looking out for his best interest I would tell him to contact MSU. You know the coaches, they like you and you like them you could dominate at the Big Sky level go out your senior year with a bang. Bigby and Tyler Hall wow! Now as Bob Robinson looking at my Bobcats that I know and love, I worry whether Bigby will fit in. I have said it before Fish does not do well with one and done transfers, maybe sitting out a year will help thought. Does Bigby have the maturity to really be coached hard? Will he be happy here? I have mixed feeling, but if he did sign we really would not be out a lot. We do not NEED him for next year nor the following. This team is mature enough I don't think he can hurt team chemistry, so why not.

I can tell you this. I have heard from a couple sources that Fish and his coaches are taking this transfer possibility real seriously and will at least throw their hat in the ring to see if there is any interest. Enough so they may have put a few other recruiting possibilities on a temporarily hold.


The Oregon coaches gave him plenty of opportunity. He was a bust and never really got along with the team. Talent wise I wouldn't say no to him. But from the people I talk to here in Eugene, I don't think I'd like him in the locker room.
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Re: Spring Basketball recruiting

Postby bobcatfan4life on Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:37 pm

CatBlitz wrote:
mslacat wrote:In about Late February or early March I got an PM Twitter message from Bigby-Williams and he asked me NEVER to mention again that he had or was a commit to Montana State as he had no intention of signing with us now that his recruitment was blowing up. He went on to explain that those type of tweets were only confusing potential school schools who wanted to recruit him. He also said MSU was always his back-up plan. Colter/Skyline sports interviewed him just a short time later and he told Colter that he never like MSU or Bozeman he only committed there/he becuase of his limited options coming out of high school and now that he had option there is no way he would ever sign with MSU (this is para-phrasing because I am too lazy to go back and look up the article). The deal was done.

Bigby, 12 months ago, was one of those kids who wanted to go to the biggest school possible for his ego and so he could tell all of his friends. We wll as many kids have found being in the spot light has its problems He came in as Oregon's 2nd JC Player of the year over the past 2 years. The 1st was Chris Boucher the previous year who had an immediate impact on the program starting at center and being named to the All Pac-12 team as a junior. The people at Oregon were expecting the same out of Bigby. Oregon was loaded at the 4 and 5 spot this year and as you can see from his stat line did not get much playing time. Even when Boucher was lost for the season and every one proclaimed it was time for Bigby to step up, the coaches never really gave him the opportunity. The fans were worce. All the message boards and twitter type outlet were calling him a bust, should have signed with Montana State ect. expectations were high and they did not feel he delivered.

I tell this story to explain how I feel. If Bigby is still in the same mindset as last year he will not be happy here, nor do I think he will even give MSU a look. If he has changed his mind and would like to go to a school where he could be a big fish in a small pond and he could be happy with that, I would entertain the idea. If I were a mentor or adviser who he trusted and was truly looking out for his best interest I would tell him to contact MSU. You know the coaches, they like you and you like them you could dominate at the Big Sky level go out your senior year with a bang. Bigby and Tyler Hall wow! Now as Bob Robinson looking at my Bobcats that I know and love, I worry whether Bigby will fit in. I have said it before Fish does not do well with one and done transfers, maybe sitting out a year will help thought. Does Bigby have the maturity to really be coached hard? Will he be happy here? I have mixed feeling, but if he did sign we really would not be out a lot. We do not NEED him for next year nor the following. This team is mature enough I don't think he can hurt team chemistry, so why not.

I can tell you this. I have heard from a couple sources that Fish and his coaches are taking this transfer possibility real seriously and will at least throw their hat in the ring to see if there is any interest. Enough so they may have put a few other recruiting possibilities on a temporarily hold.


The Oregon coaches gave him plenty of opportunity. He was a bust and never really got along with the team. Talent wise I wouldn't say no to him. But from the people I talk to here in Eugene, I don't think I'd like him in the locker room.



Although the idea of having a guy like him is appealing for basketball reasons. not sure it for me is so appealing if he has the attitude he does about Bozeman and Montana State. And i would think we wouldn't even be in his consideration because he was so against coming here when he supposedly got all these big offers from other schools. Yet, why is Oregon not good enough for him? I don't know that I would want to bring a guy in that has that kind of cocky, all about me attitude. I say that because the team we have now seems to be playing a lot better as a team, they get along on and off the court and it shows. Last thing we need is a player in the locker room that will cause issues. He was great JC player, but maybe not getting the playing time at Oregon he wanted, but he is supposed to be a star. Well we have a star, Tyler, and i would say i would so much prefer Tyler's attitude over Bigby-WIlliams. Tyler has been all about the team, all about helping the team get better, he is humble and not all about himself, which he could easily be. I think as great as Bigby would be basketball wise he isn't worth it for other reasons. I say we move onto other recruit options.
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Re: Spring Basketball recruiting

Postby Grandmaster Cat on Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:02 pm

mslacat wrote:In about Late February or early March I got an PM Twitter message from Bigby-Williams and he asked me NEVER to mention again that he had or was a commit to Montana State as he had no intention of signing with us now that his recruitment was blowing up. He went on to explain that those type of tweets were only confusing potential school schools who wanted to recruit him. He also said MSU was always his back-up plan. Colter/Skyline sports interviewed him just a short time later and he told Colter that he never like MSU or Bozeman he only committed there/he becuase of his limited options coming out of high school and now that he had option there is no way he would ever sign with MSU (this is para-phrasing because I am too lazy to go back and look up the article). The deal was done.

Bigby, 12 months ago, was one of those kids who wanted to go to the biggest school possible for his ego and so he could tell all of his friends. We wll as many kids have found being in the spot light has its problems He came in as Oregon's 2nd JC Player of the year over the past 2 years. The 1st was Chris Boucher the previous year who had an immediate impact on the program starting at center and being named to the All Pac-12 team as a junior. The people at Oregon were expecting the same out of Bigby. Oregon was loaded at the 4 and 5 spot this year and as you can see from his stat line did not get much playing time. Even when Boucher was lost for the season and every one proclaimed it was time for Bigby to step up, the coaches never really gave him the opportunity. The fans were worce. All the message boards and twitter type outlet were calling him a bust, should have signed with Montana State ect. expectations were high and they did not feel he delivered.

I tell this story to explain how I feel. If Bigby is still in the same mindset as last year he will not be happy here, nor do I think he will even give MSU a look. If he has changed his mind and would like to go to a school where he could be a big fish in a small pond and he could be happy with that, I would entertain the idea. If I were a mentor or adviser who he trusted and was truly looking out for his best interest I would tell him to contact MSU. You know the coaches, they like you and you like them you could dominate at the Big Sky level go out your senior year with a bang. Bigby and Tyler Hall wow! Now as Bob Robinson looking at my Bobcats that I know and love, I worry whether Bigby will fit in. I have said it before Fish does not do well with one and done transfers, maybe sitting out a year will help thought. Does Bigby have the maturity to really be coached hard? Will he be happy here? I have mixed feeling, but if he did sign we really would not be out a lot. We do not NEED him for next year nor the following. This team is mature enough I don't think he can hurt team chemistry, so why not.

I can tell you this. I have heard from a couple sources that Fish and his coaches are taking this transfer possibility real seriously and will at least throw their hat in the ring to see if there is any interest. Enough so they may have put a few other recruiting possibilities on a temporarily hold.


It's definitely an intriguing possibility. I don't know the odds of Bigby-Williams coming to MSU are, but maybe he really has been humbled by his time at Oregon. And basketball-wise, when was the last time the 'Cats had a dominant big man? Maybe Mbunga or Al Beye? There has been a lackluster turnstile of inside players in recent years, due to injuries, busts and bad luck. Playing a 6'6" small forward at center this past year showed how thin we are inside.

I can see why the coaches are at least open to it, and I can also see why many fans would rather pass after Bigby-Williams' previous comments. Maybe it's an imperfect metaphor, but kind of reminds me of when the girl you're dating leaves you for another guy, then wants to come back after she realizes it wasn't a good match...
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Re: Spring Basketball recruiting

Postby GrizgradCatFan on Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:20 pm

Bigby Transfer?
Would be a game changer for our offense if he plays as good as he showed in JC. If we don't size up we are going to be an above average, but not dominant team in the big sky. I don't know if you have seen the Griz just picked up a 7' center with some weight (note they have another coming in as well) and also just got a high school kid to walk on that averaged a double double and is 6'8". When was the last time we got a 6'8" kid to walk on for the cats. Big picture people. I think maybe he swallows his pride and we back down a little and see. I am sure Fish knows first hand the nature of this kids mind set from his friends at Oregon. Plus if the kid is smart he will see he could get the chance to play with a great set of players. We are setting up to have a great team for the next couple years depending on how long Tyler decides to give us presence. I would welcome his presence to the court and would love to see that for Tylers final year where he destroys all the records as the best Cat on the court ever. Just saying.
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Re: Spring Basketball recruiting

Postby 91catAlum on Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:22 pm

GrizgradCatFan wrote:Bigby Transfer?
Would be a game changer for our offense if he plays as good as he showed in JC. If we don't size up we are going to be an above average, but not dominant team in the big sky. I don't know if you have seen the Griz just picked up a 7' center with some weight (note they have another coming in as well) and also just got a high school kid to walk on that averaged a double double and is 6'8". When was the last time we got a 6'8" kid to walk on for the cats. Big picture people. I think maybe he swallows his pride and we back down a little and see. I am sure Fish knows first hand the nature of this kids mind set from his friends at Oregon. Plus if the kid is smart he will see he could get the chance to play with a great set of players. We are setting up to have a great team for the next couple years depending on how long Tyler decides to give us presence. I would welcome his presence to the court and would love to see that for Tylers final year where he destroys all the records as the best Cat on the court ever. Just saying.
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Re: Spring Basketball recruiting

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