Combine?

[catatac]

Any Cat players there? I doubt it as I haven’t heard a peep.

[gtapp]

No, I doubt any Cats will get a look from the NFL this year except for Snell. He should get a Free Agent deal after the draft.

[AFCAT]

No, I doubt any Cats will get a look from the NFL this year except for Snell. He should get a Free Agent deal after the draft.

I think there may be a couple of other players that get mini camp invites. Depends on how their pro day goes.

[PapaG]

Hoping people realize just how special that 2021-season senior class was and how it was unrealistic thinking that much NFL talent on one team should be the norm. It was absolutely loaded and if Tommy doesn’t get hurt early in Frisco, it’s at the very least a much more competitive game as the Cats were moving the ball well on that first drive.

[catatac]

Hoping people realize just how special that 2021-season senior class was and how it was unrealistic thinking that much NFL talent on one team should be the norm. It was absolutely loaded and if Tommy doesn’t get hurt early in Frisco, it’s at the very least a much more competitive game as the Cats were moving the ball well on that first drive.

Good post, and I am guilty as charged in saying I thought it was going to be the new normal to have multiple NFL caliber players on the team each year based on where Choate and Vigen have taken the program. I might have been wrong, although I do think Snell is NFL quality, and perhaps Pickering. Seabass will be too, but we know the story there. Also, looking at the graduating seniors after next season, I can 100% guarantee there is NFL talent there

[BLACKnBLUEnGOLD]

Snell has a chance because he has a specific skillset that some teams look for in a #3 TE--the ability to line up anywhere on the field, especially at both fullback and inline TE, and because he's an exceptional athlete for this level. Pickering has to stand out among all the TEs who are about 6'4", about 240 pounds, and pretty-good blockers who occasionally caught the ball. That describes TE1 for most college teams, so it's a crowded field

[Prodigal Cat]

I do think we might have some post season draft talk next season. If Tommy wants to pursue it he certainly would be intriguing. He's not a starting QB at the next level but with his athletic abilities he certainly could be on an NFL team. I think he could be a special teams freak and would give you an emergency backup QB and gadget (wildcat) player. Grebe might be the most draftable player. He's made gains every year and edge rushers are a sought after commodity. Wehr is a bit undersized but has the tools.

If those 3 have productive seasons I could see bowl invites. I thought Snell would get one and still do if he had been healthy.

[Montanabob]

I do think we might have some post season draft talk next season. If Tommy wants to pursue it he certainly would be intriguing. He's not a starting QB at the next level but with his athletic abilities he certainly could be on an NFL team. I think he could be a special teams freak and would give you an emergency backup QB and gadget (wildcat) player. Grebe might be the most draftable player. He's made gains every year and edge rushers are a sought after commodity. Wehr is a bit undersized but has the tools.

If those 3 have productive seasons I could see bowl invites. I thought Snell would get one and still do if he had been healthy.

hummm. i don't see Tommy getting NFL look but CFL/XFL a better fit. injury history keeps him out of NFL.

[WetBreeches]

I do think we might have some post season draft talk next season. If Tommy wants to pursue it he certainly would be intriguing. He's not a starting QB at the next level but with his athletic abilities he certainly could be on an NFL team. I think he could be a special teams freak and would give you an emergency backup QB and gadget (wildcat) player. Grebe might be the most draftable player. He's made gains every year and edge rushers are a sought after commodity. Wehr is a bit undersized but has the tools.

If those 3 have productive seasons I could see bowl invites. I thought Snell would get one and still do if he had been healthy.

Very few NFL teams will carry a player strictly for special teams. A guy may make a team based upon his value as a special teams player, but they are always able to fill another role on the team (LB, RB, WR, CB, S). Tommy is in no way an NFL QB, so what would his actual position be? NFL teams carry 3 qbs, two suit up on Sunday. An NFL team is NOT going to carry their emergency QB on the game day 48 just so they have a special teams stud and possible emergency QB. The only hope Tommy would have at the NFL is slot receiver. That would require him to move positions NEXT season and put up incredible numbers. Don't mix my words, Tommy is an incredible athlete, would/could put up NFL numbers on combo drills at certain positions, but will not be playing on Sundays. I believe he has the athleticism and intelligence to play slot receiver in the NFL (don't know about the hands). I also don't see him playing QB at the CFL/XFL. Look at the QB's who have gone CFL....they put up insane passing numbers in college.

[catatac]

I think slot receiver is most likely, but I could also se him putting on a few pounds and playing RB. Could potentially be somwhat of a McCaffrey type player. And before someone jumps on me for that comment, yes I understand MsCaffrey is an incredible RB and Tommy is not. However, Tommy is just so dang fast, shifty, smart, and tough. Yes he's tough as nails, don't think because he's has some bad luck with injuries it has anything to do with his toughness.

[Prodigal Cat]

I do think we might have some post season draft talk next season. If Tommy wants to pursue it he certainly would be intriguing. He's not a starting QB at the next level but with his athletic abilities he certainly could be on an NFL team. I think he could be a special teams freak and would give you an emergency backup QB and gadget (wildcat) player. Grebe might be the most draftable player. He's made gains every year and edge rushers are a sought after commodity. Wehr is a bit undersized but has the tools.

If those 3 have productive seasons I could see bowl invites. I thought Snell would get one and still do if he had been healthy.

Very few NFL teams will carry a player strictly for special teams. A guy may make a team based upon his value as a special teams player, but they are always able to fill another role on the team (LB, RB, WR, CB, S). Tommy is in no way an NFL QB, so what would his actual position be? NFL teams carry 3 qbs, two suit up on Sunday. An NFL team is NOT going to carry their emergency QB on the game day 48 just so they have a special teams stud and possible emergency QB. The only hope Tommy would have at the NFL is slot receiver. That would require him to move positions NEXT season and put up incredible numbers. Don't mix my words, Tommy is an incredible athlete, would/could put up NFL numbers on combo drills at certain positions, but will not be playing on Sundays. I believe he has the athleticism and intelligence to play slot receiver in the NFL (don't know about the hands). I also don't see him playing QB at the CFL/XFL. Look at the QB's who have gone CFL....they put up insane passing numbers in college.

There is so much wrong with this paragraph I'm not sure where to begin. Devin Hestor just made the Hall of Fame exclusively as a Special team player. Was he listed as a WR, yes but he wasn't on the team because of his skills on offense. He was there for special teams. Dwayne Harris made an entire career out of being very good at special teams for the Cowboys. Matthew Slater just got named to the Pro Bowl for the TENTH TIME purely from his contributions on special teams. The NFL is LOADED with special teams specialists so get out of here with teams don't keep guys strictly for ST. Just ignorant and wrong.
Do you realize how often New Orleans had Drew Brees, Chase Daniels/Teddy Bridgewater, AND Taysom Hill active on game day? Why, because Hill could contribute in a multiple of ways. Special teams, wildcat etc while being the emergency 3rd QB. Julian Edelman was the same for New England before Welker retired. Kick returner, backup WR and emergency 3rd QB. NFL loves guys like Tommy. He plays special teams, could be a RB but also is the emergency QB. It's because they are limited in the number of players they can have active having a Tommy is very valuable.

[profisme]

I do think we might have some post season draft talk next season. If Tommy wants to pursue it he certainly would be intriguing. He's not a starting QB at the next level but with his athletic abilities he certainly could be on an NFL team. I think he could be a special teams freak and would give you an emergency backup QB and gadget (wildcat) player. Grebe might be the most draftable player. He's made gains every year and edge rushers are a sought after commodity. Wehr is a bit undersized but has the tools.

If those 3 have productive seasons I could see bowl invites. I thought Snell would get one and still do if he had been healthy.

Very few NFL teams will carry a player strictly for special teams. A guy may make a team based upon his value as a special teams player, but they are always able to fill another role on the team (LB, RB, WR, CB, S). Tommy is in no way an NFL QB, so what would his actual position be? NFL teams carry 3 qbs, two suit up on Sunday. An NFL team is NOT going to carry their emergency QB on the game day 48 just so they have a special teams stud and possible emergency QB. The only hope Tommy would have at the NFL is slot receiver. That would require him to move positions NEXT season and put up incredible numbers. Don't mix my words, Tommy is an incredible athlete, would/could put up NFL numbers on combo drills at certain positions, but will not be playing on Sundays. I believe he has the athleticism and intelligence to play slot receiver in the NFL (don't know about the hands). I also don't see him playing QB at the CFL/XFL. Look at the QB's who have gone CFL....they put up insane passing numbers in college.

There is so much wrong with this paragraph I'm not sure where to begin. Devin Hestor just made the Hall of Fame exclusively as a Special team player. Was he listed as a WR, yes but he wasn't on the team because of his skills on offense. He was there for special teams. Dwayne Harris made an entire career out of being very good at special teams for the Cowboys. Matthew Slater just got named to the Pro Bowl for the TENTH TIME purely from his contributions on special teams. The NFL is LOADED with special teams specialists so get out of here with teams don't keep guys strictly for ST. Just ignorant and wrong.
Do you realize how often New Orleans had Drew Brees, Chase Daniels/Teddy Bridgewater, AND Taysom Hill active on game day? Why, because Hill could contribute in a multiple of ways. Special teams, wildcat etc while being the emergency 3rd QB. Julian Edelman was the same for New England before Welker retired. Kick returner, backup WR and emergency 3rd QB. NFL loves guys like Tommy. He plays special teams, could be a RB but also is the emergency QB. It's because they are limited in the number of players they can have active having a Tommy is very valuable.

Hester was drafted as a CB, but I honestly don’t remember him playing much defense. He started playing WR as a gimmick and eventually was the “#1 receiver” after Muhammad retired and Berrian left for Minnesota.

Hester was a returner. Full stop. And he was simply incredible.

[kaner77]

Tommy is not NFL player

[catatac]

Tommy is not NFL player

Good talk.

[GoldstoneCat]

Marcus Wehr as a guard could get a legit look. He's not long enough to play tackle in the NFL. Grebe will need to test well. Guys who can get to the QB are obviously valuable, but does he have the tools? Dallas Turner just ran a 4.47 as an edge rusher . Those are the 2 obvious ones with Valdez gone.

[Camo_Cat]

This comment on Twitter/X from Alex Singleton says it all....

[WetBreeches]

I do think we might have some post season draft talk next season. If Tommy wants to pursue it he certainly would be intriguing. He's not a starting QB at the next level but with his athletic abilities he certainly could be on an NFL team. I think he could be a special teams freak and would give you an emergency backup QB and gadget (wildcat) player. Grebe might be the most draftable player. He's made gains every year and edge rushers are a sought after commodity. Wehr is a bit undersized but has the tools.

If those 3 have productive seasons I could see bowl invites. I thought Snell would get one and still do if he had been healthy.

Very few NFL teams will carry a player strictly for special teams. A guy may make a team based upon his value as a special teams player, but they are always able to fill another role on the team (LB, RB, WR, CB, S). Tommy is in no way an NFL QB, so what would his actual position be? NFL teams carry 3 qbs, two suit up on Sunday. An NFL team is NOT going to carry their emergency QB on the game day 48 just so they have a special teams stud and possible emergency QB. The only hope Tommy would have at the NFL is slot receiver. That would require him to move positions NEXT season and put up incredible numbers. Don't mix my words, Tommy is an incredible athlete, would/could put up NFL numbers on combo drills at certain positions, but will not be playing on Sundays. I believe he has the athleticism and intelligence to play slot receiver in the NFL (don't know about the hands). I also don't see him playing QB at the CFL/XFL. Look at the QB's who have gone CFL....they put up insane passing numbers in college.

There is so much wrong with this paragraph I'm not sure where to begin. Devin Hestor just made the Hall of Fame exclusively as a Special team player. Was he listed as a WR, yes but he wasn't on the team because of his skills on offense. He was there for special teams. Dwayne Harris made an entire career out of being very good at special teams for the Cowboys. Matthew Slater just got named to the Pro Bowl for the TENTH TIME purely from his contributions on special teams. The NFL is LOADED with special teams specialists so get out of here with teams don't keep guys strictly for ST. Just ignorant and wrong.
Do you realize how often New Orleans had Drew Brees, Chase Daniels/Teddy Bridgewater, AND Taysom Hill active on game day? Why, because Hill could contribute in a multiple of ways. Special teams, wildcat etc while being the emergency 3rd QB. Julian Edelman was the same for New England before Welker retired. Kick returner, backup WR and emergency 3rd QB. NFL loves guys like Tommy. He plays special teams, could be a RB but also is the emergency QB. It's because they are limited in the number of players they can have active having a Tommy is very valuable.

So much wrong....haha...You immediately compare Tommy to HOF special teamers...

Devin Hester averaged 36 receptions and 473 yards over the 7 years he played receiver. Yes he was kept due to his ST role (and a HOF ST), but he also put up #3 receiver numbers, thus filling that role also.

Dwayne Harris was a #4 receiver and played both ways on ST. He was a top flight returner and solid gunner. Is Tommy going to be returning and on punt/kickoff coverage?

Slater is an interesting case because he played for Belichick. Who operates from an entirely different perspective when constructing a roster. Could a Belichick type find Tommy and utilize him? Absolutely, but almost no one else has built rosters similar to Belichick and we started to understand why as soon as Brady left, because it was proven to be ineffective.

Taysom Hill is an entirely different beast. Although he may occupy the "emergency QB" role, he also lines up in the slot, inline TE, or at HBack. Along with ST duties.

Edelman was about to be out of the league after 4 years. Patriots took a one year flyer on him, he broke out, got paid in 2014. If he doesn't sign that one year deal with New England in 2014, who knows...Edelman was probably kept around the first 4 years because he was a 7th round pick and Belichick loved late round rookie contracts.

If you go back and read what I wrote, pretty well every person you named (besides Slater) occupied multiple roles besides stud ST player and/or the role they occupied on ST was returner (essentially what I said about ST players). A returner is valued more than a gunner. Maybe Tommy could return kicks and punts, but I don't see it. So if you're ST role is gunner you better bring value in other areas (Hill - Emergency QB and ability to line up at multiple spots on field). I don't see Tommy getting as big as Hill, thus the slot receiver role....

[PapaG]

Tommy isn’t going to be kept on a roster just for special teams unless he’s a returner, which he hasn’t done in college. We can rule that out, barring one of the biggest surprises in UDFA history.

It’s an absolute long shot he even makes a fall camp, but if by some chance he does, he’s going to have to show he can play as an NFL wide receiver, and most likely in the slot. That’s the almost universal path college QBs with athleticism but not NFL QB talent take to an NFL roster.

Here is a decent read on some college QBs who’ve made the move with both productive receivers and those who struggled mentioned. Even here, many of these guys also played some receiver in college, which Tommy has never done other than lining up in a few gimmick formations with Chambers

Keep in mind that Tommy also won’t be drafted, which means he’d also need to excel in any post-draft spring camps to even make it to the full team training camp.

https://www.bannersociety.com/2017/4/27 ... ver-switch

[Montanabob]

Tommy isn’t going to be kept on a roster just for special teams unless he’s a returner, which he hasn’t done in college. We can rule that out, barring one of the biggest surprises in UDFA history.

It’s an absolute long shot he even makes a fall camp, but if by some chance he does, he’s going to have to show he can play as an NFL wide receiver, and most likely in the slot. That’s the almost universal path college QBs with athleticism but not NFL QB talent take to an NFL roster.

Here is a decent read on some college QBs who’ve made the move with both productive receivers and those who struggled mentioned. Even here, many of these guys also played some receiver in college, which Tommy has never done other than lining up in a few gimmick formations with Chambers

Keep in mind that Tommy also won’t be drafted, which means he’d also need to excel in any post-draft spring camps to even make it to the full team training camp.

https://www.bannersociety.com/2017/4/27 ... ver-switch

Too bad he didn't include a QB from MSU.

[PapaG]

Tommy isn’t going to be kept on a roster just for special teams unless he’s a returner, which he hasn’t done in college. We can rule that out, barring one of the biggest surprises in UDFA history.

It’s an absolute long shot he even makes a fall camp, but if by some chance he does, he’s going to have to show he can play as an NFL wide receiver, and most likely in the slot. That’s the almost universal path college QBs with athleticism but not NFL QB talent take to an NFL roster.

Here is a decent read on some college QBs who’ve made the move with both productive receivers and those who struggled mentioned. Even here, many of these guys also played some receiver in college, which Tommy has never done other than lining up in a few gimmick formations with Chambers

Keep in mind that Tommy also won’t be drafted, which means he’d also need to excel in any post-draft spring camps to even make it to the full team training camp.

https://www.bannersociety.com/2017/4/27 ... ver-switch

Too bad he didn't include a QB from MSU.

Article is from 2018. Travis played WR at MSU, though. Only had 13 total passes as a Bobcat.