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Bingo!BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:37 amI don't know why you're so angry about it. If you want, take it up with the NCAA rules committee. If a TE blocks to sell he's blocking, then disengages because it's actually a TE screen, are you saying it's ok for the defender to continue blocking/holding/restricting him because he blocked him to start? If you are, you're incorrect. That's a penalty. I'm not arguing it was a stupid call, but by the letter of the law, yes, a receiver can be a blocker, then disengage and no longer be a blocker, giving the DB the same contact rules against them as a receiver running a route straight off the line.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:17 amSo he can be a blocker until he decides not to be a blocker and because he's decided not to be a blocker its now pass interference? There was never an attempt to run a route, they disengaged and he fell down. For the love of god... It wasn't DPI. It was the dumbest play call on the planet, guessing House phoned it in for them.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:46 amThe rule, not in these exact words as I don't have my rule book in front of me, is that an eligible receiver is a blocker until he is no longer a blocker, at which time he is making an attempt to become or has become a receiver. At that time, the defender is no longer allowed to maintain, or make new contact with th eligible receiver, otherwise it is deemed rerouting said receiver, holding, illegal contact, or defensive PI depending on where the ball is at the time of said contact. The fact the TE initiated contact first, while blocking, makes no difference.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:03 amThe offensive player initiated the contact. It’s not DPI.
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Do you use the “bruh” comment during your daily conversations?. You do realize it makes you like you are 12.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:58 amnah bruh, many cat posters agree it was the right call. but the overall state of denial and jealousy on this board is second to none and I'm loving every second of it.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:50 amYou might be the dumbest Griz fan in the history of the program. What an absolute stupid explanation. Didn’t know what you guys were talking about so I watched the video. This is called pass interference/holding 99 out of 100 times.GoGriz1023 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:09 pmVideo proof is hard....even when the DB's jersey is clearly being ripped and then the TE trying to 'throw' the DB off...oh wait, doesn't matter, because the Griz won and THAT doesn't fit the narrative over in kittenville....hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:09 amwrong. there's another angle from the other corner of the endzone that clearly shows it was an excellent no call. I don't know how to post twitter videos but its on egriz. In fact, you can see the NDSU TE holding our DB, then flails and tries to get call. its clear as day. I know you really want there to be some reason why the griz didn't deserve the win, but you're just grasping at straws. It was an excellent game and the griz 100% gutted out an amazing win in what will go down as the greatest game in Wa-Griz history. here is the link to the egriz thread that shows the video i think. its the second one down. https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.p ... &start=500BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:28 amSorry, but the TE doesn't lose his balance. He disengages to become a receiver, gets outside the DB and the DB holds on to him with his left hand, resulting in a pull down. That is 100% a penalty. Probably should have been called holding and not PI as the ball wasn't in there air yet.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:46 amThe play looks fine to me, they're both engaged off the bat and they separate and the TE loses his balance. good no call imo, there were way more egregious penalties earlier in the game from both sides.Griznationalist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:39 pm82 (TE) initiated contact with 8 (CB), 82 attempts to pull down 8 (offensive holding) and run through him, 8 keeps "clean hands" on 82 through play (within 5 yrds of line of scrimmage is legal), 82 loses balance - 8 disengaged - ball is thrown (in that order, which is important on the call).91catAlum wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:14 pmNever? Then a good defense against this would be to throw all the receivers to the ground.Griznationalist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:53 pmThe quarterback handed the ball off, and the “receiver” was masquerading as a blocker on the trick play. That will never be called a penalty.
Pretty dumb play call, though.
I will admit to being jealous that you are in the national championship. Similar to how Gris fans were jealous a couple years ago when we played in Frisco. Heck, similar to how Gris fans were jealous when we played in multiple semifinals games over the past couple of years. The funny thing is though is that Cat fans many other things to be happy with, like enrollment twice as large as UM, major investments on campus that dwarfs UM and a more marketable degree. I am sure we will be okay even if the Gris win in Frisco.
I also was never insecure enough to go post on the Gris website when we were headed to Frisco…. Talk about little brother syndrome…..
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Re: NDSU/Griz semifinals
Where am I angry? I don't get the logic you're trying to use. The TE engages in a block, they disengage and he falls down. he wasn't pushed or pulled to the ground, never made an attempt to run a route, because he fell... not the defenders fault, and because in the TE's mind his was running a route its DPI?BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:37 amI don't know why you're so angry about it. If you want, take it up with the NCAA rules committee. If a TE blocks to sell he's blocking, then disengages because it's actually a TE screen, are you saying it's ok for the defender to continue blocking/holding/restricting him because he blocked him to start? If you are, you're incorrect. That's a penalty. I'm not arguing it was a stupid call, but by the letter of the law, yes, a receiver can be a blocker, then disengage and no longer be a blocker, giving the DB the same contact rules against them as a receiver running a route straight off the line.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:17 amSo he can be a blocker until he decides not to be a blocker and because he's decided not to be a blocker its now pass interference? There was never an attempt to run a route, they disengaged and he fell down. For the love of god... It wasn't DPI. It was the dumbest play call on the planet, guessing House phoned it in for them.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:46 amThe rule, not in these exact words as I don't have my rule book in front of me, is that an eligible receiver is a blocker until he is no longer a blocker, at which time he is making an attempt to become or has become a receiver. At that time, the defender is no longer allowed to maintain, or make new contact with th eligible receiver, otherwise it is deemed rerouting said receiver, holding, illegal contact, or defensive PI depending on where the ball is at the time of said contact. The fact the TE initiated contact first, while blocking, makes no difference.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:03 amThe offensive player initiated the contact. It’s not DPI.
Sorry, its not and it will never get called, which is why it wasn't.
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bruh, thats wonderful that the investments and enrollment brings you great joy. Merry Grizmas bruhCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:33 pmDo you use the “bruh” comment during your daily conversations?. You do realize it makes you like you are 12.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:58 amnah bruh, many cat posters agree it was the right call. but the overall state of denial and jealousy on this board is second to none and I'm loving every second of it.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:50 amYou might be the dumbest Griz fan in the history of the program. What an absolute stupid explanation. Didn’t know what you guys were talking about so I watched the video. This is called pass interference/holding 99 out of 100 times.GoGriz1023 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:09 pmVideo proof is hard....even when the DB's jersey is clearly being ripped and then the TE trying to 'throw' the DB off...oh wait, doesn't matter, because the Griz won and THAT doesn't fit the narrative over in kittenville....hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:09 amwrong. there's another angle from the other corner of the endzone that clearly shows it was an excellent no call. I don't know how to post twitter videos but its on egriz. In fact, you can see the NDSU TE holding our DB, then flails and tries to get call. its clear as day. I know you really want there to be some reason why the griz didn't deserve the win, but you're just grasping at straws. It was an excellent game and the griz 100% gutted out an amazing win in what will go down as the greatest game in Wa-Griz history. here is the link to the egriz thread that shows the video i think. its the second one down. https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.p ... &start=500BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:28 amSorry, but the TE doesn't lose his balance. He disengages to become a receiver, gets outside the DB and the DB holds on to him with his left hand, resulting in a pull down. That is 100% a penalty. Probably should have been called holding and not PI as the ball wasn't in there air yet.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:46 amThe play looks fine to me, they're both engaged off the bat and they separate and the TE loses his balance. good no call imo, there were way more egregious penalties earlier in the game from both sides.Griznationalist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:39 pm82 (TE) initiated contact with 8 (CB), 82 attempts to pull down 8 (offensive holding) and run through him, 8 keeps "clean hands" on 82 through play (within 5 yrds of line of scrimmage is legal), 82 loses balance - 8 disengaged - ball is thrown (in that order, which is important on the call).91catAlum wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:14 pmNever? Then a good defense against this would be to throw all the receivers to the ground.Griznationalist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:53 pm
The quarterback handed the ball off, and the “receiver” was masquerading as a blocker on the trick play. That will never be called a penalty.
Pretty dumb play call, though.
I will admit to being jealous that you are in the national championship. Similar to how Gris fans were jealous a couple years ago when we played in Frisco. Heck, similar to how Gris fans were jealous when we played in multiple semifinals games over the past couple of years. The funny thing is though is that Cat fans many other things to be happy with, like enrollment twice as large as UM, major investments on campus that dwarfs UM and a more marketable degree. I am sure we will be okay even if the Gris win in Frisco.
I also was never insecure enough to go post on the Gris website when we were headed to Frisco…. Talk about little brother syndrome…..
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Re: NDSU/Griz semifinals
Thanks! Don’t be late for your shift at McDonalds!hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:11 pmbruh, thats wonderful that the investments and enrollment brings you great joy. Merry Grizmas bruhCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:33 pmDo you use the “bruh” comment during your daily conversations?. You do realize it makes you like you are 12.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:58 amnah bruh, many cat posters agree it was the right call. but the overall state of denial and jealousy on this board is second to none and I'm loving every second of it.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:50 amYou might be the dumbest Griz fan in the history of the program. What an absolute stupid explanation. Didn’t know what you guys were talking about so I watched the video. This is called pass interference/holding 99 out of 100 times.GoGriz1023 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:09 pmVideo proof is hard....even when the DB's jersey is clearly being ripped and then the TE trying to 'throw' the DB off...oh wait, doesn't matter, because the Griz won and THAT doesn't fit the narrative over in kittenville....hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:09 amwrong. there's another angle from the other corner of the endzone that clearly shows it was an excellent no call. I don't know how to post twitter videos but its on egriz. In fact, you can see the NDSU TE holding our DB, then flails and tries to get call. its clear as day. I know you really want there to be some reason why the griz didn't deserve the win, but you're just grasping at straws. It was an excellent game and the griz 100% gutted out an amazing win in what will go down as the greatest game in Wa-Griz history. here is the link to the egriz thread that shows the video i think. its the second one down. https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.p ... &start=500BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:28 amSorry, but the TE doesn't lose his balance. He disengages to become a receiver, gets outside the DB and the DB holds on to him with his left hand, resulting in a pull down. That is 100% a penalty. Probably should have been called holding and not PI as the ball wasn't in there air yet.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:46 amThe play looks fine to me, they're both engaged off the bat and they separate and the TE loses his balance. good no call imo, there were way more egregious penalties earlier in the game from both sides.Griznationalist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:39 pm82 (TE) initiated contact with 8 (CB), 82 attempts to pull down 8 (offensive holding) and run through him, 8 keeps "clean hands" on 82 through play (within 5 yrds of line of scrimmage is legal), 82 loses balance - 8 disengaged - ball is thrown (in that order, which is important on the call).
I will admit to being jealous that you are in the national championship. Similar to how Gris fans were jealous a couple years ago when we played in Frisco. Heck, similar to how Gris fans were jealous when we played in multiple semifinals games over the past couple of years. The funny thing is though is that Cat fans many other things to be happy with, like enrollment twice as large as UM, major investments on campus that dwarfs UM and a more marketable degree. I am sure we will be okay even if the Gris win in Frisco.
I also was never insecure enough to go post on the Gris website when we were headed to Frisco…. Talk about little brother syndrome…..
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The bolded above makes you seem angry, unless you talk like that in your normal conversations all the time. It looks to me like the defender uses his left arm to continue pushing the TE to the ground after the disengagement. But that's just my opinion. It's fine you don't share the same view. I didn't watch the game, didn't see what else the refs missed, didn't miss etc. My commentary is on this one specific play, and the rule which would apply here. Once the TE disengages and it's clear it's now a pass play, he's a receiver by rule.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:35 pmWhere am I angry? I don't get the logic you're trying to use. The TE engages in a block, they disengage and he falls down. he wasn't pushed or pulled to the ground, never made an attempt to run a route, because he fell... not the defenders fault, and because in the TE's mind his was running a route its DPI?BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:37 amI don't know why you're so angry about it. If you want, take it up with the NCAA rules committee. If a TE blocks to sell he's blocking, then disengages because it's actually a TE screen, are you saying it's ok for the defender to continue blocking/holding/restricting him because he blocked him to start? If you are, you're incorrect. That's a penalty. I'm not arguing it was a stupid call, but by the letter of the law, yes, a receiver can be a blocker, then disengage and no longer be a blocker, giving the DB the same contact rules against them as a receiver running a route straight off the line.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:17 amSo he can be a blocker until he decides not to be a blocker and because he's decided not to be a blocker its now pass interference? There was never an attempt to run a route, they disengaged and he fell down. For the love of god... It wasn't DPI. It was the dumbest play call on the planet, guessing House phoned it in for them.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:46 amThe rule, not in these exact words as I don't have my rule book in front of me, is that an eligible receiver is a blocker until he is no longer a blocker, at which time he is making an attempt to become or has become a receiver. At that time, the defender is no longer allowed to maintain, or make new contact with th eligible receiver, otherwise it is deemed rerouting said receiver, holding, illegal contact, or defensive PI depending on where the ball is at the time of said contact. The fact the TE initiated contact first, while blocking, makes no difference.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:03 amThe offensive player initiated the contact. It’s not DPI.
Sorry, its not and it will never get called, which is why it wasn't.
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This is where we disagree and I'll keep disagreeing. I agree once they disengage he's free to be a receiver, however he does not make a football move. They break and he immediately falls and I see nothing from the defender forcing him to the ground after the disengagement. And not angry, I just think it was the dumbest play imaginable to run, the griz D line was getting pushed around and was gassed, run it straight at them.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:24 pmThe bolded above makes you seem angry, unless you talk like that in your normal conversations all the time. It looks to me like the defender uses his left arm to continue pushing the TE to the ground after the disengagement. But that's just my opinion. It's fine you don't share the same view. I didn't watch the game, didn't see what else the refs missed, didn't miss etc. My commentary is on this one specific play, and the rule which would apply here. Once the TE disengages and it's clear it's now a pass play, he's a receiver by rule.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:35 pmWhere am I angry? I don't get the logic you're trying to use. The TE engages in a block, they disengage and he falls down. he wasn't pushed or pulled to the ground, never made an attempt to run a route, because he fell... not the defenders fault, and because in the TE's mind his was running a route its DPI?BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:37 amI don't know why you're so angry about it. If you want, take it up with the NCAA rules committee. If a TE blocks to sell he's blocking, then disengages because it's actually a TE screen, are you saying it's ok for the defender to continue blocking/holding/restricting him because he blocked him to start? If you are, you're incorrect. That's a penalty. I'm not arguing it was a stupid call, but by the letter of the law, yes, a receiver can be a blocker, then disengage and no longer be a blocker, giving the DB the same contact rules against them as a receiver running a route straight off the line.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:17 amSo he can be a blocker until he decides not to be a blocker and because he's decided not to be a blocker its now pass interference? There was never an attempt to run a route, they disengaged and he fell down. For the love of god... It wasn't DPI. It was the dumbest play call on the planet, guessing House phoned it in for them.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:46 amThe rule, not in these exact words as I don't have my rule book in front of me, is that an eligible receiver is a blocker until he is no longer a blocker, at which time he is making an attempt to become or has become a receiver. At that time, the defender is no longer allowed to maintain, or make new contact with th eligible receiver, otherwise it is deemed rerouting said receiver, holding, illegal contact, or defensive PI depending on where the ball is at the time of said contact. The fact the TE initiated contact first, while blocking, makes no difference.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:03 amThe offensive player initiated the contact. It’s not DPI.
Sorry, its not and it will never get called, which is why it wasn't.
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I'm just seriously dumbfounded that you're even posting here. Why have an argument with biased rivals? On their board??? You guys love to say "rent free", but this is the epitome. If you could just be happy with what your team is doing, you wouldn't be here. But you can't, because the Bobcats live in your head and they ain't paying rent. Pretty sure that's how that works.GoGriz1023 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:09 pmVideo proof is hard....even when the DB's jersey is clearly being ripped and then the TE trying to 'throw' the DB off...oh wait, doesn't matter, because the Griz won and THAT doesn't fit the narrative over in kittenville....hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:09 amwrong. there's another angle from the other corner of the endzone that clearly shows it was an excellent no call. I don't know how to post twitter videos but its on egriz. In fact, you can see the NDSU TE holding our DB, then flails and tries to get call. its clear as day. I know you really want there to be some reason why the griz didn't deserve the win, but you're just grasping at straws. It was an excellent game and the griz 100% gutted out an amazing win in what will go down as the greatest game in Wa-Griz history. here is the link to the egriz thread that shows the video i think. its the second one down. https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.p ... &start=500BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:28 amSorry, but the TE doesn't lose his balance. He disengages to become a receiver, gets outside the DB and the DB holds on to him with his left hand, resulting in a pull down. That is 100% a penalty. Probably should have been called holding and not PI as the ball wasn't in there air yet.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:46 amThe play looks fine to me, they're both engaged off the bat and they separate and the TE loses his balance. good no call imo, there were way more egregious penalties earlier in the game from both sides.Griznationalist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:39 pm82 (TE) initiated contact with 8 (CB), 82 attempts to pull down 8 (offensive holding) and run through him, 8 keeps "clean hands" on 82 through play (within 5 yrds of line of scrimmage is legal), 82 loses balance - 8 disengaged - ball is thrown (in that order, which is important on the call).91catAlum wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:14 pmNever? Then a good defense against this would be to throw all the receivers to the ground.Griznationalist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:53 pmThe quarterback handed the ball off, and the “receiver” was masquerading as a blocker on the trick play. That will never be called a penalty.
Pretty dumb play call, though.
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Because the only thing BN loves more than Bobcat football is feeding the trolls. His intent is to get under someone's skin. And I bet the success rate here is 95% or greater. Definitely not a hobby I understand, but a very popular one for gris fans. I'd imagine we have some on our side of the fence but I have better things to do than visit egris.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:09 pmI'm just seriously dumbfounded that you're even posting here. Why have an argument with biased rivals? On their board???
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Ah yes, the classic " you work at McDonalds" insult. FYI my "McDonalds career" pays me 6 figures and supports a family of 5. But that's very high brow of you to make fun of people that actually do have to work jobs like that to make ends meet. You should be proud of that insult. It's very intellectual and effective. And it totally pertains to the discussion at hand. touchéCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:13 pmThanks! Don’t be late for your shift at McDonalds!hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:11 pmbruh, thats wonderful that the investments and enrollment brings you great joy. Merry Grizmas bruhCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:33 pmDo you use the “bruh” comment during your daily conversations?. You do realize it makes you like you are 12.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:58 amnah bruh, many cat posters agree it was the right call. but the overall state of denial and jealousy on this board is second to none and I'm loving every second of it.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:50 amYou might be the dumbest Griz fan in the history of the program. What an absolute stupid explanation. Didn’t know what you guys were talking about so I watched the video. This is called pass interference/holding 99 out of 100 times.GoGriz1023 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:09 pmVideo proof is hard....even when the DB's jersey is clearly being ripped and then the TE trying to 'throw' the DB off...oh wait, doesn't matter, because the Griz won and THAT doesn't fit the narrative over in kittenville....hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:09 amwrong. there's another angle from the other corner of the endzone that clearly shows it was an excellent no call. I don't know how to post twitter videos but its on egriz. In fact, you can see the NDSU TE holding our DB, then flails and tries to get call. its clear as day. I know you really want there to be some reason why the griz didn't deserve the win, but you're just grasping at straws. It was an excellent game and the griz 100% gutted out an amazing win in what will go down as the greatest game in Wa-Griz history. here is the link to the egriz thread that shows the video i think. its the second one down. https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.p ... &start=500BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:28 amSorry, but the TE doesn't lose his balance. He disengages to become a receiver, gets outside the DB and the DB holds on to him with his left hand, resulting in a pull down. That is 100% a penalty. Probably should have been called holding and not PI as the ball wasn't in there air yet.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:46 amThe play looks fine to me, they're both engaged off the bat and they separate and the TE loses his balance. good no call imo, there were way more egregious penalties earlier in the game from both sides.Griznationalist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:39 pm
82 (TE) initiated contact with 8 (CB), 82 attempts to pull down 8 (offensive holding) and run through him, 8 keeps "clean hands" on 82 through play (within 5 yrds of line of scrimmage is legal), 82 loses balance - 8 disengaged - ball is thrown (in that order, which is important on the call).
I will admit to being jealous that you are in the national championship. Similar to how Gris fans were jealous a couple years ago when we played in Frisco. Heck, similar to how Gris fans were jealous when we played in multiple semifinals games over the past couple of years. The funny thing is though is that Cat fans many other things to be happy with, like enrollment twice as large as UM, major investments on campus that dwarfs UM and a more marketable degree. I am sure we will be okay even if the Gris win in Frisco.
I also was never insecure enough to go post on the Gris website when we were headed to Frisco…. Talk about little brother syndrome…..
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Most of the guys in Bobcat Nation are knowledgeable fans who are fun to talk football with, but the couple of guys who engage in name calling and insults seem pretty insecure and butt hurt without significant football knowledge. They are not the norm. Thank you.
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I get it, I'm just here to remind them that it's no different from the student section adding ESG-GCG to the fight song every week of the season. I think it's hilarious because it gets under their skin, but they think it's because they live rent free in our heads. The more it bugs them the more I like it.D-Wreck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:19 pmBecause the only thing BN loves more than Bobcat football is feeding the trolls. His intent is to get under someone's skin. And I bet the success rate here is 95% or greater. Definitely not a hobby I understand, but a very popular one for gris fans. I'd imagine we have some on our side of the fence but I have better things to do than visit egris.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:09 pmI'm just seriously dumbfounded that you're even posting here. Why have an argument with biased rivals? On their board???
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Re: NDSU/Griz semifinals
I just figured your liberal arts degree made you qualified for that occupation…. Didn’t know you could flip burgers and make $100,000+. Congrats!hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:27 pmAh yes, the classic " you work at McDonalds" insult. FYI my "McDonalds career" pays me 6 figures and supports a family of 5. But that's very high brow of you to make fun of people that actually do have to work jobs like that to make ends meet. You should be proud of that insult. It's very intellectual and effective. And it totally pertains to the discussion at hand. touchéCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:13 pmThanks! Don’t be late for your shift at McDonalds!hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:11 pmbruh, thats wonderful that the investments and enrollment brings you great joy. Merry Grizmas bruhCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:33 pmDo you use the “bruh” comment during your daily conversations?. You do realize it makes you like you are 12.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:58 amnah bruh, many cat posters agree it was the right call. but the overall state of denial and jealousy on this board is second to none and I'm loving every second of it.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:50 amYou might be the dumbest Griz fan in the history of the program. What an absolute stupid explanation. Didn’t know what you guys were talking about so I watched the video. This is called pass interference/holding 99 out of 100 times.GoGriz1023 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:09 pmVideo proof is hard....even when the DB's jersey is clearly being ripped and then the TE trying to 'throw' the DB off...oh wait, doesn't matter, because the Griz won and THAT doesn't fit the narrative over in kittenville....hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:09 amwrong. there's another angle from the other corner of the endzone that clearly shows it was an excellent no call. I don't know how to post twitter videos but its on egriz. In fact, you can see the NDSU TE holding our DB, then flails and tries to get call. its clear as day. I know you really want there to be some reason why the griz didn't deserve the win, but you're just grasping at straws. It was an excellent game and the griz 100% gutted out an amazing win in what will go down as the greatest game in Wa-Griz history. here is the link to the egriz thread that shows the video i think. its the second one down. https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.p ... &start=500BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:28 amSorry, but the TE doesn't lose his balance. He disengages to become a receiver, gets outside the DB and the DB holds on to him with his left hand, resulting in a pull down. That is 100% a penalty. Probably should have been called holding and not PI as the ball wasn't in there air yet.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:46 am
The play looks fine to me, they're both engaged off the bat and they separate and the TE loses his balance. good no call imo, there were way more egregious penalties earlier in the game from both sides.
I will admit to being jealous that you are in the national championship. Similar to how Gris fans were jealous a couple years ago when we played in Frisco. Heck, similar to how Gris fans were jealous when we played in multiple semifinals games over the past couple of years. The funny thing is though is that Cat fans many other things to be happy with, like enrollment twice as large as UM, major investments on campus that dwarfs UM and a more marketable degree. I am sure we will be okay even if the Gris win in Frisco.
I also was never insecure enough to go post on the Gris website when we were headed to Frisco…. Talk about little brother syndrome…..
Oh by the way, you forgot to comment on all the wonderful things going on at MSU!! Sure we will be okay if the Gris somehow win in Frisco. Must have been difficult times for you though when the Cats were in Frisco. Not much to feel good about with UM enrollment and layoffs and downsizing.
But thanks little brother for stopping over to gloat!! Has to be and empty life and a touch depressing when you have to post at BN to feel good about your success….
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I’m sure you say the same about the majority of people who post on eGriz.Griznationalist wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:44 pmMost of the guys in Bobcat Nation are knowledgeable fans who are fun to talk football with, but the couple of guys who engage in name calling and insults seem pretty insecure and butt hurt without significant football knowledge. They are not the norm. Thank you.
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Re: NDSU/Griz semifinals
Not to nitpick, but I think both schools have seen increased enrollment the last couple of years. I believe MSU had a record high enrollment this fall, and I think UM had their biggest increase since since 2009 if I'm not mistaken. Seems they are recovering from some tough years and MSU is continuing its rapid growth.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:50 pmI just figured your liberal arts degree made you qualified for that occupation…. Didn’t know you could flip burgers and make $100,000+. Congrats!hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:27 pmAh yes, the classic " you work at McDonalds" insult. FYI my "McDonalds career" pays me 6 figures and supports a family of 5. But that's very high brow of you to make fun of people that actually do have to work jobs like that to make ends meet. You should be proud of that insult. It's very intellectual and effective. And it totally pertains to the discussion at hand. touchéCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:13 pmThanks! Don’t be late for your shift at McDonalds!hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:11 pmbruh, thats wonderful that the investments and enrollment brings you great joy. Merry Grizmas bruhCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:33 pmDo you use the “bruh” comment during your daily conversations?. You do realize it makes you like you are 12.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:58 amnah bruh, many cat posters agree it was the right call. but the overall state of denial and jealousy on this board is second to none and I'm loving every second of it.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:50 amYou might be the dumbest Griz fan in the history of the program. What an absolute stupid explanation. Didn’t know what you guys were talking about so I watched the video. This is called pass interference/holding 99 out of 100 times.GoGriz1023 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:09 pmVideo proof is hard....even when the DB's jersey is clearly being ripped and then the TE trying to 'throw' the DB off...oh wait, doesn't matter, because the Griz won and THAT doesn't fit the narrative over in kittenville....hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:09 amwrong. there's another angle from the other corner of the endzone that clearly shows it was an excellent no call. I don't know how to post twitter videos but its on egriz. In fact, you can see the NDSU TE holding our DB, then flails and tries to get call. its clear as day. I know you really want there to be some reason why the griz didn't deserve the win, but you're just grasping at straws. It was an excellent game and the griz 100% gutted out an amazing win in what will go down as the greatest game in Wa-Griz history. here is the link to the egriz thread that shows the video i think. its the second one down. https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.p ... &start=500BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:28 am
Sorry, but the TE doesn't lose his balance. He disengages to become a receiver, gets outside the DB and the DB holds on to him with his left hand, resulting in a pull down. That is 100% a penalty. Probably should have been called holding and not PI as the ball wasn't in there air yet.
I will admit to being jealous that you are in the national championship. Similar to how Gris fans were jealous a couple years ago when we played in Frisco. Heck, similar to how Gris fans were jealous when we played in multiple semifinals games over the past couple of years. The funny thing is though is that Cat fans many other things to be happy with, like enrollment twice as large as UM, major investments on campus that dwarfs UM and a more marketable degree. I am sure we will be okay even if the Gris win in Frisco.
I also was never insecure enough to go post on the Gris website when we were headed to Frisco…. Talk about little brother syndrome…..
Oh by the way, you forgot to comment on all the wonderful things going on at MSU!! Sure we will be okay if the Gris somehow win in Frisco. Must have been difficult times for you though when the Cats were in Frisco. Not much to feel good about with UM enrollment and layoffs and downsizing.
But thanks little brother for stopping over to gloat!! Has to be and empty life and a touch depressing when you have to post at BN to feel good about your success….
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Re: NDSU/Griz semifinals
Sure you do. You are coming on here trolling like a high school kid and you want us to believe you have a job.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:27 pmAh yes, the classic " you work at McDonalds" insult. FYI my "McDonalds career" pays me 6 figures and supports a family of 5. But that's very high brow of you to make fun of people that actually do have to work jobs like that to make ends meet. You should be proud of that insult. It's very intellectual and effective. And it totally pertains to the discussion at hand. touchéCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:13 pmThanks! Don’t be late for your shift at McDonalds!hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:11 pmbruh, thats wonderful that the investments and enrollment brings you great joy. Merry Grizmas bruhCataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:33 pmDo you use the “bruh” comment during your daily conversations?. You do realize it makes you like you are 12.hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:58 amnah bruh, many cat posters agree it was the right call. but the overall state of denial and jealousy on this board is second to none and I'm loving every second of it.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:50 amYou might be the dumbest Griz fan in the history of the program. What an absolute stupid explanation. Didn’t know what you guys were talking about so I watched the video. This is called pass interference/holding 99 out of 100 times.GoGriz1023 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:09 pmVideo proof is hard....even when the DB's jersey is clearly being ripped and then the TE trying to 'throw' the DB off...oh wait, doesn't matter, because the Griz won and THAT doesn't fit the narrative over in kittenville....hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:09 amwrong. there's another angle from the other corner of the endzone that clearly shows it was an excellent no call. I don't know how to post twitter videos but its on egriz. In fact, you can see the NDSU TE holding our DB, then flails and tries to get call. its clear as day. I know you really want there to be some reason why the griz didn't deserve the win, but you're just grasping at straws. It was an excellent game and the griz 100% gutted out an amazing win in what will go down as the greatest game in Wa-Griz history. here is the link to the egriz thread that shows the video i think. its the second one down. https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.p ... &start=500BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:28 amSorry, but the TE doesn't lose his balance. He disengages to become a receiver, gets outside the DB and the DB holds on to him with his left hand, resulting in a pull down. That is 100% a penalty. Probably should have been called holding and not PI as the ball wasn't in there air yet.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:46 am
The play looks fine to me, they're both engaged off the bat and they separate and the TE loses his balance. good no call imo, there were way more egregious penalties earlier in the game from both sides.
I will admit to being jealous that you are in the national championship. Similar to how Gris fans were jealous a couple years ago when we played in Frisco. Heck, similar to how Gris fans were jealous when we played in multiple semifinals games over the past couple of years. The funny thing is though is that Cat fans many other things to be happy with, like enrollment twice as large as UM, major investments on campus that dwarfs UM and a more marketable degree. I am sure we will be okay even if the Gris win in Frisco.
I also was never insecure enough to go post on the Gris website when we were headed to Frisco…. Talk about little brother syndrome…..
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Re: NDSU/Griz semifinals
Because, if the opposite were true (i.e. the Cats are going to the chipper), you're going to tell me Cat fans wouldn't be ALL OVER talking smack? And, besides, it's fun. Grew up a Griz, grad of UM, and kitties are the rival.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:09 pmI'm just seriously dumbfounded that you're even posting here. Why have an argument with biased rivals? On their board??? You guys love to say "rent free", but this is the epitome. If you could just be happy with what your team is doing, you wouldn't be here. But you can't, because the Bobcats live in your head and they ain't paying rent. Pretty sure that's how that works.GoGriz1023 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:09 pmVideo proof is hard....even when the DB's jersey is clearly being ripped and then the TE trying to 'throw' the DB off...oh wait, doesn't matter, because the Griz won and THAT doesn't fit the narrative over in kittenville....hilinegrizfan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:09 amwrong. there's another angle from the other corner of the endzone that clearly shows it was an excellent no call. I don't know how to post twitter videos but its on egriz. In fact, you can see the NDSU TE holding our DB, then flails and tries to get call. its clear as day. I know you really want there to be some reason why the griz didn't deserve the win, but you're just grasping at straws. It was an excellent game and the griz 100% gutted out an amazing win in what will go down as the greatest game in Wa-Griz history. here is the link to the egriz thread that shows the video i think. its the second one down. https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.p ... &start=500BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:28 amSorry, but the TE doesn't lose his balance. He disengages to become a receiver, gets outside the DB and the DB holds on to him with his left hand, resulting in a pull down. That is 100% a penalty. Probably should have been called holding and not PI as the ball wasn't in there air yet.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:46 amThe play looks fine to me, they're both engaged off the bat and they separate and the TE loses his balance. good no call imo, there were way more egregious penalties earlier in the game from both sides.Griznationalist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:39 pm82 (TE) initiated contact with 8 (CB), 82 attempts to pull down 8 (offensive holding) and run through him, 8 keeps "clean hands" on 82 through play (within 5 yrds of line of scrimmage is legal), 82 loses balance - 8 disengaged - ball is thrown (in that order, which is important on the call).91catAlum wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:14 pmNever? Then a good defense against this would be to throw all the receivers to the ground.Griznationalist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:53 pmThe quarterback handed the ball off, and the “receiver” was masquerading as a blocker on the trick play. That will never be called a penalty.
Pretty dumb play call, though.