TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
It's a decision that, if even considered, will be made with input from the individual players, doctors, families, etc. Last year Coach Choate let Logan Jones ultimately make that decision. We're talking about it like it's just the coaching staff making a call...and we don't have nearly the same amount of information they do. It is an interesting question though, but one I know I wouldn't make given the amount of information I have at my disposal. If it's clear they won't be productive in the next 3 months, I guess you shut them down. If 4-6 weeks gets them healthy enough, I think they're playing.
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Troy is Choate's favorite player. He's not going to pull him off the field for the rest of the season. II is more likely just due to our depth (and having Troy available to bail us out 4-5 times per game).
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
I assume TA is going to the NFL after next year regardless. Might as well play him. Giving him some games off so he's healthier come playoff time might be sensible, but shutting him down to redshirt him will be pointless. He's not a five-year guy.
I actually kind of like the idea of redshirting Ifanse depending on how serious his injury is.
I actually kind of like the idea of redshirting Ifanse depending on how serious his injury is.
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
Why is that in bad taste?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pmOf course I recognize you are joking, but comparing him to an 80 year old guy seems in bad taste, especially when you believe he was playing hurt at less than 75% health.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pmC'mon man. I'm obviously not saying he is playing or running like one. He doesn't look like a healthy 20 year old when he gets up off the ground though. Not even close. But yes I would take TA at 75% over just about everyone else in the conference. He seems like he is far from 75% though.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:57 pmNo question he is hobbled. I was amazed that he played another play after his 20 yard run. I thought he was seriously hurt. Quite frankly, I thought it was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen from a Bobcat player. But a hurt Troy at 75% health may still be one of the top running backs in the Big Sky. To compare him to a senior citizen (even in a joking manner) is really a stretch...BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pmMaybe an 80 year old man was a bit too old. Maybe 65. I'm not saying he can't still go out there, make some nice runs and punish some guys like he did to #4, but you can't deny that he was hobbling big time after each run.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:57 pmI assume you are trying to be funny, but TA was not gimping around like an 80 year old. In some critical situations on offense, TA was still our number one option in his current state. He also did a great job in coverage on defense.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:44 pmI think most people would say you are crazy. But there are definitely pros and cons to both.
I think redshirting Ifanse would be an easier decision than TA because our stable is performing great so far... ANNNNDDD, this is the key compenent in my eyes: He has only played in 2 games thus far. Even if we got him back healthy for the playoffs and he didn't play another snap before then he could still play 2 games in the playoffs and redshirts. TA on the other hand has now played in 4 I believe. And even if he gets back to say... 75% by November, there is no way in hell he redshirts. Who knows how it will play out but after watching TA gimp around like an 80 year old after every offensive play on Saturday I'm sure the conversation is being had.
One thing is clear, TA needs time to get healthy. He was playing because TA injured is still capable of making significant contributions to our team. Anybody else in that same state of health would be in street clothes.
If I am Choate, TA and Ifanse does not see the field till after the bye week. We should be deep enough to beat our next two opponents minus TA and Ifanse. Our team is capable of a deep playoff run this year and a healthy TA and Ifanse could be the difference between quarterfinal and Frisco.
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
I'm confused. This isn't the Game Day thread, is it?
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
The kid just left blood, sweat and tears on the field in one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen. After one play, I thought Andersen was done for the season the way he was dragging his leg after getting tackled. Then anonymous poster compares him to an 80 year old guy. I understand it was a joke, but in my opinion, it was in poor taste.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:55 pmWhy is that in bad taste?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pmOf course I recognize you are joking, but comparing him to an 80 year old guy seems in bad taste, especially when you believe he was playing hurt at less than 75% health.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pmC'mon man. I'm obviously not saying he is playing or running like one. He doesn't look like a healthy 20 year old when he gets up off the ground though. Not even close. But yes I would take TA at 75% over just about everyone else in the conference. He seems like he is far from 75% though.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:57 pmNo question he is hobbled. I was amazed that he played another play after his 20 yard run. I thought he was seriously hurt. Quite frankly, I thought it was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen from a Bobcat player. But a hurt Troy at 75% health may still be one of the top running backs in the Big Sky. To compare him to a senior citizen (even in a joking manner) is really a stretch...BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pmMaybe an 80 year old man was a bit too old. Maybe 65. I'm not saying he can't still go out there, make some nice runs and punish some guys like he did to #4, but you can't deny that he was hobbling big time after each run.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:57 pmI assume you are trying to be funny, but TA was not gimping around like an 80 year old. In some critical situations on offense, TA was still our number one option in his current state. He also did a great job in coverage on defense.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:44 pmI think most people would say you are crazy. But there are definitely pros and cons to both.
I think redshirting Ifanse would be an easier decision than TA because our stable is performing great so far... ANNNNDDD, this is the key compenent in my eyes: He has only played in 2 games thus far. Even if we got him back healthy for the playoffs and he didn't play another snap before then he could still play 2 games in the playoffs and redshirts. TA on the other hand has now played in 4 I believe. And even if he gets back to say... 75% by November, there is no way in hell he redshirts. Who knows how it will play out but after watching TA gimp around like an 80 year old after every offensive play on Saturday I'm sure the conversation is being had.
One thing is clear, TA needs time to get healthy. He was playing because TA injured is still capable of making significant contributions to our team. Anybody else in that same state of health would be in street clothes.
If I am Choate, TA and Ifanse does not see the field till after the bye week. We should be deep enough to beat our next two opponents minus TA and Ifanse. Our team is capable of a deep playoff run this year and a healthy TA and Ifanse could be the difference between quarterfinal and Frisco.
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
I too, am offended for all the 80 year old's out there being compared to Troy Anderson!!!Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:17 pmThe kid just left blood, sweat and tears on the field in one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen. After one play, I thought Andersen was done for the season the way he was dragging his leg after getting tackled. Then anonymous poster compares him to an 80 year old guy. I understand it was a joke, but in my opinion, it was in poor taste.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:55 pmWhy is that in bad taste?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pmOf course I recognize you are joking, but comparing him to an 80 year old guy seems in bad taste, especially when you believe he was playing hurt at less than 75% health.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pmC'mon man. I'm obviously not saying he is playing or running like one. He doesn't look like a healthy 20 year old when he gets up off the ground though. Not even close. But yes I would take TA at 75% over just about everyone else in the conference. He seems like he is far from 75% though.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:57 pmNo question he is hobbled. I was amazed that he played another play after his 20 yard run. I thought he was seriously hurt. Quite frankly, I thought it was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen from a Bobcat player. But a hurt Troy at 75% health may still be one of the top running backs in the Big Sky. To compare him to a senior citizen (even in a joking manner) is really a stretch...BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pmMaybe an 80 year old man was a bit too old. Maybe 65. I'm not saying he can't still go out there, make some nice runs and punish some guys like he did to #4, but you can't deny that he was hobbling big time after each run.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:57 pmI assume you are trying to be funny, but TA was not gimping around like an 80 year old. In some critical situations on offense, TA was still our number one option in his current state. He also did a great job in coverage on defense.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:44 pmI think most people would say you are crazy. But there are definitely pros and cons to both.
I think redshirting Ifanse would be an easier decision than TA because our stable is performing great so far... ANNNNDDD, this is the key compenent in my eyes: He has only played in 2 games thus far. Even if we got him back healthy for the playoffs and he didn't play another snap before then he could still play 2 games in the playoffs and redshirts. TA on the other hand has now played in 4 I believe. And even if he gets back to say... 75% by November, there is no way in hell he redshirts. Who knows how it will play out but after watching TA gimp around like an 80 year old after every offensive play on Saturday I'm sure the conversation is being had.
One thing is clear, TA needs time to get healthy. He was playing because TA injured is still capable of making significant contributions to our team. Anybody else in that same state of health would be in street clothes.
If I am Choate, TA and Ifanse does not see the field till after the bye week. We should be deep enough to beat our next two opponents minus TA and Ifanse. Our team is capable of a deep playoff run this year and a healthy TA and Ifanse could be the difference between quarterfinal and Frisco.
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
I too, am offended that a year or two ago you promised to refer to Troy AndersEn as TA after multiple misspellings of his last name. Please take no offence (or defence for that matter)catsrback76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:42 pmI too, am offended for all the 80 year old's out there being compared to Troy Anderson!!!Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:17 pmThe kid just left blood, sweat and tears on the field in one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen. After one play, I thought Andersen was done for the season the way he was dragging his leg after getting tackled. Then anonymous poster compares him to an 80 year old guy. I understand it was a joke, but in my opinion, it was in poor taste.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:55 pmWhy is that in bad taste?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pmOf course I recognize you are joking, but comparing him to an 80 year old guy seems in bad taste, especially when you believe he was playing hurt at less than 75% health.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pmC'mon man. I'm obviously not saying he is playing or running like one. He doesn't look like a healthy 20 year old when he gets up off the ground though. Not even close. But yes I would take TA at 75% over just about everyone else in the conference. He seems like he is far from 75% though.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:57 pmNo question he is hobbled. I was amazed that he played another play after his 20 yard run. I thought he was seriously hurt. Quite frankly, I thought it was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen from a Bobcat player. But a hurt Troy at 75% health may still be one of the top running backs in the Big Sky. To compare him to a senior citizen (even in a joking manner) is really a stretch...BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pmMaybe an 80 year old man was a bit too old. Maybe 65. I'm not saying he can't still go out there, make some nice runs and punish some guys like he did to #4, but you can't deny that he was hobbling big time after each run.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:57 pmI assume you are trying to be funny, but TA was not gimping around like an 80 year old. In some critical situations on offense, TA was still our number one option in his current state. He also did a great job in coverage on defense.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:44 pmI think most people would say you are crazy. But there are definitely pros and cons to both.
I think redshirting Ifanse would be an easier decision than TA because our stable is performing great so far... ANNNNDDD, this is the key compenent in my eyes: He has only played in 2 games thus far. Even if we got him back healthy for the playoffs and he didn't play another snap before then he could still play 2 games in the playoffs and redshirts. TA on the other hand has now played in 4 I believe. And even if he gets back to say... 75% by November, there is no way in hell he redshirts. Who knows how it will play out but after watching TA gimp around like an 80 year old after every offensive play on Saturday I'm sure the conversation is being had.
One thing is clear, TA needs time to get healthy. He was playing because TA injured is still capable of making significant contributions to our team. Anybody else in that same state of health would be in street clothes.
If I am Choate, TA and Ifanse does not see the field till after the bye week. We should be deep enough to beat our next two opponents minus TA and Ifanse. Our team is capable of a deep playoff run this year and a healthy TA and Ifanse could be the difference between quarterfinal and Frisco.
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Well played! Mr. AndersEn deserves all due respect and proper spellings!arvcat2 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:08 pmI too, am offended that a year or two ago you promised to refer to Troy AndersEn as TA after multiple misspellings of his last name. Please take no offence (or defence for that matter)catsrback76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:42 pmI too, am offended for all the 80 year old's out there being compared to Troy Anderson!!!Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:17 pmThe kid just left blood, sweat and tears on the field in one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen. After one play, I thought Andersen was done for the season the way he was dragging his leg after getting tackled. Then anonymous poster compares him to an 80 year old guy. I understand it was a joke, but in my opinion, it was in poor taste.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:55 pmWhy is that in bad taste?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pmOf course I recognize you are joking, but comparing him to an 80 year old guy seems in bad taste, especially when you believe he was playing hurt at less than 75% health.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pmC'mon man. I'm obviously not saying he is playing or running like one. He doesn't look like a healthy 20 year old when he gets up off the ground though. Not even close. But yes I would take TA at 75% over just about everyone else in the conference. He seems like he is far from 75% though.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:57 pmNo question he is hobbled. I was amazed that he played another play after his 20 yard run. I thought he was seriously hurt. Quite frankly, I thought it was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen from a Bobcat player. But a hurt Troy at 75% health may still be one of the top running backs in the Big Sky. To compare him to a senior citizen (even in a joking manner) is really a stretch...BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pmMaybe an 80 year old man was a bit too old. Maybe 65. I'm not saying he can't still go out there, make some nice runs and punish some guys like he did to #4, but you can't deny that he was hobbling big time after each run.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:57 pmI assume you are trying to be funny, but TA was not gimping around like an 80 year old. In some critical situations on offense, TA was still our number one option in his current state. He also did a great job in coverage on defense.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:44 pmI think most people would say you are crazy. But there are definitely pros and cons to both.
I think redshirting Ifanse would be an easier decision than TA because our stable is performing great so far... ANNNNDDD, this is the key compenent in my eyes: He has only played in 2 games thus far. Even if we got him back healthy for the playoffs and he didn't play another snap before then he could still play 2 games in the playoffs and redshirts. TA on the other hand has now played in 4 I believe. And even if he gets back to say... 75% by November, there is no way in hell he redshirts. Who knows how it will play out but after watching TA gimp around like an 80 year old after every offensive play on Saturday I'm sure the conversation is being had.
One thing is clear, TA needs time to get healthy. He was playing because TA injured is still capable of making significant contributions to our team. Anybody else in that same state of health would be in street clothes.
If I am Choate, TA and Ifanse does not see the field till after the bye week. We should be deep enough to beat our next two opponents minus TA and Ifanse. Our team is capable of a deep playoff run this year and a healthy TA and Ifanse could be the difference between quarterfinal and Frisco.
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
So it's the "gimp around like an 80 year old man" part that got you? Isn't that just a way of explaining what his injury looked like?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:17 pmThe kid just left blood, sweat and tears on the field in one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen. After one play, I thought Andersen was done for the season the way he was dragging his leg after getting tackled. Then anonymous poster compares him to an 80 year old guy. I understand it was a joke, but in my opinion, it was in poor taste.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:55 pmWhy is that in bad taste?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pmOf course I recognize you are joking, but comparing him to an 80 year old guy seems in bad taste, especially when you believe he was playing hurt at less than 75% health.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pmC'mon man. I'm obviously not saying he is playing or running like one. He doesn't look like a healthy 20 year old when he gets up off the ground though. Not even close. But yes I would take TA at 75% over just about everyone else in the conference. He seems like he is far from 75% though.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:57 pmNo question he is hobbled. I was amazed that he played another play after his 20 yard run. I thought he was seriously hurt. Quite frankly, I thought it was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen from a Bobcat player. But a hurt Troy at 75% health may still be one of the top running backs in the Big Sky. To compare him to a senior citizen (even in a joking manner) is really a stretch...BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pmMaybe an 80 year old man was a bit too old. Maybe 65. I'm not saying he can't still go out there, make some nice runs and punish some guys like he did to #4, but you can't deny that he was hobbling big time after each run.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:57 pmI assume you are trying to be funny, but TA was not gimping around like an 80 year old. In some critical situations on offense, TA was still our number one option in his current state. He also did a great job in coverage on defense.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:44 pmI think most people would say you are crazy. But there are definitely pros and cons to both.
I think redshirting Ifanse would be an easier decision than TA because our stable is performing great so far... ANNNNDDD, this is the key compenent in my eyes: He has only played in 2 games thus far. Even if we got him back healthy for the playoffs and he didn't play another snap before then he could still play 2 games in the playoffs and redshirts. TA on the other hand has now played in 4 I believe. And even if he gets back to say... 75% by November, there is no way in hell he redshirts. Who knows how it will play out but after watching TA gimp around like an 80 year old after every offensive play on Saturday I'm sure the conversation is being had.
One thing is clear, TA needs time to get healthy. He was playing because TA injured is still capable of making significant contributions to our team. Anybody else in that same state of health would be in street clothes.
If I am Choate, TA and Ifanse does not see the field till after the bye week. We should be deep enough to beat our next two opponents minus TA and Ifanse. Our team is capable of a deep playoff run this year and a healthy TA and Ifanse could be the difference between quarterfinal and Frisco.
I think you're taking it a little too seriously. And I'm curious, did you see Andersen shed tears on the field? Because I didn't, and my seats are very close to the bench.
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Yeah, your probably right. It is no big deal. I didn’t see any tears. I made that part up. Sorry Gruden. Glad you interjected your opinion.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:24 pmSo it's the "gimp around like an 80 year old man" part that got you? Isn't that just a way of explaining what his injury looked like?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:17 pmThe kid just left blood, sweat and tears on the field in one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen. After one play, I thought Andersen was done for the season the way he was dragging his leg after getting tackled. Then anonymous poster compares him to an 80 year old guy. I understand it was a joke, but in my opinion, it was in poor taste.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:55 pmWhy is that in bad taste?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pmOf course I recognize you are joking, but comparing him to an 80 year old guy seems in bad taste, especially when you believe he was playing hurt at less than 75% health.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pmC'mon man. I'm obviously not saying he is playing or running like one. He doesn't look like a healthy 20 year old when he gets up off the ground though. Not even close. But yes I would take TA at 75% over just about everyone else in the conference. He seems like he is far from 75% though.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:57 pmNo question he is hobbled. I was amazed that he played another play after his 20 yard run. I thought he was seriously hurt. Quite frankly, I thought it was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen from a Bobcat player. But a hurt Troy at 75% health may still be one of the top running backs in the Big Sky. To compare him to a senior citizen (even in a joking manner) is really a stretch...BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pmMaybe an 80 year old man was a bit too old. Maybe 65. I'm not saying he can't still go out there, make some nice runs and punish some guys like he did to #4, but you can't deny that he was hobbling big time after each run.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:57 pmI assume you are trying to be funny, but TA was not gimping around like an 80 year old. In some critical situations on offense, TA was still our number one option in his current state. He also did a great job in coverage on defense.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:44 pmI think most people would say you are crazy. But there are definitely pros and cons to both.
I think redshirting Ifanse would be an easier decision than TA because our stable is performing great so far... ANNNNDDD, this is the key compenent in my eyes: He has only played in 2 games thus far. Even if we got him back healthy for the playoffs and he didn't play another snap before then he could still play 2 games in the playoffs and redshirts. TA on the other hand has now played in 4 I believe. And even if he gets back to say... 75% by November, there is no way in hell he redshirts. Who knows how it will play out but after watching TA gimp around like an 80 year old after every offensive play on Saturday I'm sure the conversation is being had.
One thing is clear, TA needs time to get healthy. He was playing because TA injured is still capable of making significant contributions to our team. Anybody else in that same state of health would be in street clothes.
If I am Choate, TA and Ifanse does not see the field till after the bye week. We should be deep enough to beat our next two opponents minus TA and Ifanse. Our team is capable of a deep playoff run this year and a healthy TA and Ifanse could be the difference between quarterfinal and Frisco.
I think you're taking it a little too seriously. And I'm curious, did you see Andersen shed tears on the field? Because I didn't, and my seats are very close to the bench.
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It probably would have been in better taste and more acceptable had I said he looked like Superman would with some kryptonite in his back pocket.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:24 pmSo it's the "gimp around like an 80 year old man" part that got you? Isn't that just a way of explaining what his injury looked like?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:17 pmThe kid just left blood, sweat and tears on the field in one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen. After one play, I thought Andersen was done for the season the way he was dragging his leg after getting tackled. Then anonymous poster compares him to an 80 year old guy. I understand it was a joke, but in my opinion, it was in poor taste.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:55 pmWhy is that in bad taste?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pmOf course I recognize you are joking, but comparing him to an 80 year old guy seems in bad taste, especially when you believe he was playing hurt at less than 75% health.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pmC'mon man. I'm obviously not saying he is playing or running like one. He doesn't look like a healthy 20 year old when he gets up off the ground though. Not even close. But yes I would take TA at 75% over just about everyone else in the conference. He seems like he is far from 75% though.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:57 pmNo question he is hobbled. I was amazed that he played another play after his 20 yard run. I thought he was seriously hurt. Quite frankly, I thought it was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen from a Bobcat player. But a hurt Troy at 75% health may still be one of the top running backs in the Big Sky. To compare him to a senior citizen (even in a joking manner) is really a stretch...BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pmMaybe an 80 year old man was a bit too old. Maybe 65. I'm not saying he can't still go out there, make some nice runs and punish some guys like he did to #4, but you can't deny that he was hobbling big time after each run.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:57 pmI assume you are trying to be funny, but TA was not gimping around like an 80 year old. In some critical situations on offense, TA was still our number one option in his current state. He also did a great job in coverage on defense.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:44 pmI think most people would say you are crazy. But there are definitely pros and cons to both.
I think redshirting Ifanse would be an easier decision than TA because our stable is performing great so far... ANNNNDDD, this is the key compenent in my eyes: He has only played in 2 games thus far. Even if we got him back healthy for the playoffs and he didn't play another snap before then he could still play 2 games in the playoffs and redshirts. TA on the other hand has now played in 4 I believe. And even if he gets back to say... 75% by November, there is no way in hell he redshirts. Who knows how it will play out but after watching TA gimp around like an 80 year old after every offensive play on Saturday I'm sure the conversation is being had.
One thing is clear, TA needs time to get healthy. He was playing because TA injured is still capable of making significant contributions to our team. Anybody else in that same state of health would be in street clothes.
If I am Choate, TA and Ifanse does not see the field till after the bye week. We should be deep enough to beat our next two opponents minus TA and Ifanse. Our team is capable of a deep playoff run this year and a healthy TA and Ifanse could be the difference between quarterfinal and Frisco.
I think you're taking it a little too seriously. And I'm curious, did you see Andersen shed tears on the field? Because I didn't, and my seats are very close to the bench.
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Others have said it but it looks like we truly do have talented depth at LB and RB obviously. Not saying we could beat NDSU with that depth at this point, but we certainly should be able to beat CP and SAC without those two, and Alleyne (for a half), and Filer, and Tucker III, and Jones, and whoever else is bange up right now. Then we get a bye, and then start evaluating who is healthy and ready to start coming back. Really need our best players healthy for the last two games of the regular season, and the next four after that.
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Interestingly enough, Troy was limping around much worse in the 1st half compared to the 2nd half. I have no explanation for this. Can anybody explain this?
Even after taking that hit where he was flipped & knocked that NAU dink dafuq out, he seemed to get up more chipper than before.
Even after taking that hit where he was flipped & knocked that NAU dink dafuq out, he seemed to get up more chipper than before.
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
Sorry, I just think it's in poor taste to lie about a prominent student athlete crying on the field.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:55 pmYeah, your probably right. It is no big deal. I didn’t see any tears. I made that part up. Sorry Gruden. Glad you interjected your opinion.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:24 pmSo it's the "gimp around like an 80 year old man" part that got you? Isn't that just a way of explaining what his injury looked like?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:17 pmThe kid just left blood, sweat and tears on the field in one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen. After one play, I thought Andersen was done for the season the way he was dragging his leg after getting tackled. Then anonymous poster compares him to an 80 year old guy. I understand it was a joke, but in my opinion, it was in poor taste.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:55 pmWhy is that in bad taste?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pmOf course I recognize you are joking, but comparing him to an 80 year old guy seems in bad taste, especially when you believe he was playing hurt at less than 75% health.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pmC'mon man. I'm obviously not saying he is playing or running like one. He doesn't look like a healthy 20 year old when he gets up off the ground though. Not even close. But yes I would take TA at 75% over just about everyone else in the conference. He seems like he is far from 75% though.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:57 pmNo question he is hobbled. I was amazed that he played another play after his 20 yard run. I thought he was seriously hurt. Quite frankly, I thought it was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen from a Bobcat player. But a hurt Troy at 75% health may still be one of the top running backs in the Big Sky. To compare him to a senior citizen (even in a joking manner) is really a stretch...BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pmMaybe an 80 year old man was a bit too old. Maybe 65. I'm not saying he can't still go out there, make some nice runs and punish some guys like he did to #4, but you can't deny that he was hobbling big time after each run.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:57 pmI assume you are trying to be funny, but TA was not gimping around like an 80 year old. In some critical situations on offense, TA was still our number one option in his current state. He also did a great job in coverage on defense.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:44 pmI think most people would say you are crazy. But there are definitely pros and cons to both.
I think redshirting Ifanse would be an easier decision than TA because our stable is performing great so far... ANNNNDDD, this is the key compenent in my eyes: He has only played in 2 games thus far. Even if we got him back healthy for the playoffs and he didn't play another snap before then he could still play 2 games in the playoffs and redshirts. TA on the other hand has now played in 4 I believe. And even if he gets back to say... 75% by November, there is no way in hell he redshirts. Who knows how it will play out but after watching TA gimp around like an 80 year old after every offensive play on Saturday I'm sure the conversation is being had.
One thing is clear, TA needs time to get healthy. He was playing because TA injured is still capable of making significant contributions to our team. Anybody else in that same state of health would be in street clothes.
If I am Choate, TA and Ifanse does not see the field till after the bye week. We should be deep enough to beat our next two opponents minus TA and Ifanse. Our team is capable of a deep playoff run this year and a healthy TA and Ifanse could be the difference between quarterfinal and Frisco.
I think you're taking it a little too seriously. And I'm curious, did you see Andersen shed tears on the field? Because I didn't, and my seats are very close to the bench.
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
Yea, Jim Brown used to get up after every run just like TA. I think it's just to tease the other team into thinking "thank God he's done" then he runs one up the middle for 20 on the next play.FTG_1984 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:40 pmInterestingly enough, Troy was limping around much worse in the 1st half compared to the 2nd half. I have no explanation for this. Can anybody explain this?
Even after taking that hit where he was flipped & knocked that NAU dink dafuq out, he seemed to get up more chipper than before.
I think Troy does whatever he wants, and Choate just asks him what he's s playing today!
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
This. If we're going to get offended at an exaggeration to describe how he limped we need to get offended that the same person offended said Troy cried. Seriously Catoholic, do you see that? You sound like a soroity girl whining because she doesn't get to go to the Mediterranean with her friends she has to go to the Bahamas with her family for spring break. See what I did? I didn't call you that. I COMPARED you to one, but in reality really over-exadurated the comparison( which was poor to begin with but it's the best I could do at 5am) where no one really believes that's what you are one. You are neither a girl or in a sorority. Soni don't see what you were crying about here. Now again here, I don't think you ever shed a tear and cried. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.( you really can't put this post in any type of pipe and smoke it so please don't take it to mean you might try that or even that you smoke a pipe with either tobacco or wacky tobacky so please don't get offended by that)bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:15 pmSorry, I just think it's in poor taste to lie about a prominent student athlete crying on the field.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:55 pmYeah, your probably right. It is no big deal. I didn’t see any tears. I made that part up. Sorry Gruden. Glad you interjected your opinion.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:24 pmSo it's the "gimp around like an 80 year old man" part that got you? Isn't that just a way of explaining what his injury looked like?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:17 pmThe kid just left blood, sweat and tears on the field in one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen. After one play, I thought Andersen was done for the season the way he was dragging his leg after getting tackled. Then anonymous poster compares him to an 80 year old guy. I understand it was a joke, but in my opinion, it was in poor taste.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:55 pmWhy is that in bad taste?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pmOf course I recognize you are joking, but comparing him to an 80 year old guy seems in bad taste, especially when you believe he was playing hurt at less than 75% health.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pmC'mon man. I'm obviously not saying he is playing or running like one. He doesn't look like a healthy 20 year old when he gets up off the ground though. Not even close. But yes I would take TA at 75% over just about everyone else in the conference. He seems like he is far from 75% though.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:57 pmNo question he is hobbled. I was amazed that he played another play after his 20 yard run. I thought he was seriously hurt. Quite frankly, I thought it was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen from a Bobcat player. But a hurt Troy at 75% health may still be one of the top running backs in the Big Sky. To compare him to a senior citizen (even in a joking manner) is really a stretch...BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pmMaybe an 80 year old man was a bit too old. Maybe 65. I'm not saying he can't still go out there, make some nice runs and punish some guys like he did to #4, but you can't deny that he was hobbling big time after each run.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:57 pm
I assume you are trying to be funny, but TA was not gimping around like an 80 year old. In some critical situations on offense, TA was still our number one option in his current state. He also did a great job in coverage on defense.
One thing is clear, TA needs time to get healthy. He was playing because TA injured is still capable of making significant contributions to our team. Anybody else in that same state of health would be in street clothes.
If I am Choate, TA and Ifanse does not see the field till after the bye week. We should be deep enough to beat our next two opponents minus TA and Ifanse. Our team is capable of a deep playoff run this year and a healthy TA and Ifanse could be the difference between quarterfinal and Frisco.
I think you're taking it a little too seriously. And I'm curious, did you see Andersen shed tears on the field? Because I didn't, and my seats are very close to the bench.
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Re: TA and Ifanse... should they redshirt???
No kidding. Cataholic gets his panties in a twist at even the faintest hint of a slight against any MSU player. Good criminey man, quite whining and complaining. Very unbecoming and it's gets REAL old, all the threads mucked up with your crybaby crap. #growapairlutecat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:05 amThis. If we're going to get offended at an exaggeration to describe how he limped we need to get offended that the same person offended said Troy cried. Seriously Catoholic, do you see that? You sound like a soroity girl whining because she doesn't get to go to the Mediterranean with her friends she has to go to the Bahamas with her family for spring break. See what I did? I didn't call you that. I COMPARED you to one, but in reality really over-exadurated the comparison( which was poor to begin with but it's the best I could do at 5am) where no one really believes that's what you are one. You are neither a girl or in a sorority. Soni don't see what you were crying about here. Now again here, I don't think you ever shed a tear and cried. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.( you really can't put this post in any type of pipe and smoke it so please don't take it to mean you might try that or even that you smoke a pipe with either tobacco or wacky tobacky so please don't get offended by that)bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:15 pmSorry, I just think it's in poor taste to lie about a prominent student athlete crying on the field.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:55 pmYeah, your probably right. It is no big deal. I didn’t see any tears. I made that part up. Sorry Gruden. Glad you interjected your opinion.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:24 pmSo it's the "gimp around like an 80 year old man" part that got you? Isn't that just a way of explaining what his injury looked like?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:17 pmThe kid just left blood, sweat and tears on the field in one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen. After one play, I thought Andersen was done for the season the way he was dragging his leg after getting tackled. Then anonymous poster compares him to an 80 year old guy. I understand it was a joke, but in my opinion, it was in poor taste.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:55 pmWhy is that in bad taste?Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pmOf course I recognize you are joking, but comparing him to an 80 year old guy seems in bad taste, especially when you believe he was playing hurt at less than 75% health.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:00 pmC'mon man. I'm obviously not saying he is playing or running like one. He doesn't look like a healthy 20 year old when he gets up off the ground though. Not even close. But yes I would take TA at 75% over just about everyone else in the conference. He seems like he is far from 75% though.Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:57 pmNo question he is hobbled. I was amazed that he played another play after his 20 yard run. I thought he was seriously hurt. Quite frankly, I thought it was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen from a Bobcat player. But a hurt Troy at 75% health may still be one of the top running backs in the Big Sky. To compare him to a senior citizen (even in a joking manner) is really a stretch...BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pm
Maybe an 80 year old man was a bit too old. Maybe 65. I'm not saying he can't still go out there, make some nice runs and punish some guys like he did to #4, but you can't deny that he was hobbling big time after each run.
I think you're taking it a little too seriously. And I'm curious, did you see Andersen shed tears on the field? Because I didn't, and my seats are very close to the bench.
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