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Stats poll

Post by Bobcatstan » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:06 am

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Re: Stats poll

Post by cats2506 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:08 am

1. North Dakota State (4-0), 3,968 points (152 first-place votes)

Previous Ranking: 1; Last Week's Result Bye

2. James Madison (4-1), 3,786 (7)

Previous Ranking: 2; Last Week's Result: 45-10 win over Elon

3. South Dakota State (3-1), 3,670

Previous Ranking: 3; Last Week's Result: Bye

4. Weber State (2-2), 3,349

Previous Ranking: 5; Last Week's Result: 29-17 win over Northern Iowa

5. Villanova (5-0), 3,178

Previous Ranking: 8; Last Week's Result: 33-17 win over Maine

6. Montana State (4-1), 3,058

Previous Ranking: 7; Last Week's Result: 49-31 win over Northern Arizona

7. Kennesaw State (4-1), 2,928

Previous Ranking: 6; Last Week's Result: 31-7 win over Reinhardt

8. Montana (4-1), 2,594

Previous Ranking: 18; Last Week's Result: 45-20 win over UC Davis

9. Towson (3-2), 2,370

Previous Ranking: 10; Last Week's Result: 38-0 loss to Florida

10. Illinois State (3-1), 2,307

Previous Ranking: 14; Last Week's Result: Bye

11. Central Arkansas (3-1), 2,096

Previous Ranking: 15; Last Week's Result: Bye

12. UC Davis (2-3), 2,021

Previous Ranking: 4; Last Week's Result: 45-20 loss to Montana

13. Northern Iowa (2-2), 1,962

Previous Ranking: 9; Last Week's Result: 29-17 loss to Weber State

14. Furman (3-2), 1,943

Previous Ranking: 16; Last Week's Result: 17-10 win over ETSU

15. North Carolina A&T (3-1), 1,754

Previous Ranking: 17; Last Week's Result: 37-0 win over Delaware State

16. Nicholls (2-2), 1,505

Previous Ranking: 12 tie; Last Week's Result: 24-3 loss to Texas State

17. Southeastern Louisiana (3-1), 1,393

Previous Ranking: 19; Last Week's Result: 44-27 win over Northwestern State

18. Youngstown State (4-0), 1,253

Previous Ranking: 22; Last Week's Result: 45-10 win over Robert Morris

19. Delaware (3-2), 1,167

Previous Ranking: 20; Last Week's Result: 17-14 loss to Pittsburgh

20. Maine (2-3), 1,147

Previous Ranking: 12 tie; Last Week's Result: 33-17 loss to Villanova

21. Jacksonville State (3-2), 892

Previous Ranking: 11; Last Week's Result: 52-33 loss to Austin Peay

22. Eastern Washington (2-3), 731

Previous Ranking: 21; Last Week's Result: 35-20 win over North Dakota

23. Southeast Missouri (2-2), 616

Previous Ranking: 23; Last Week's Result: Bye

24. Stony Brook (4-1), 527

Previous Ranking: N/A; Last Week's Result: 31-27 win over Rhode Island

25. Princeton (2-0), 483

Previous Ranking: N/R; Last Week's Result: 56-23 win over Bucknell

Dropped Out: Elon (24), The Citadel (25)

Others Receiving Votes: Dartmouth 146, South Carolina State 113, Austin Peay 99, Sam Houston State 97, Houston Baptist 86, Elon 82, Indiana State 66, Yale 66, The Citadel 40, Sacramento State 32, Samford 30, Wofford 26, Tennessee Tech 24, Southern Illinois 23, Central Connecticut State 17, Idaho State 13, Eastern Kentucky 12, Alcorn State 2, North Dakota 2, Cal Poly 1
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PlayerRep wrote:The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat.

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Re: Stats poll

Post by Bobcatstan » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:09 am

That's last week's poll



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Re: Stats poll

Post by cats2506 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:10 am

Coaches Poll

1 North Dakota State (26) 4-0 650 1
2 James Madison 4-1 621 2
3 South Dakota State 3-1 594 3
4 Kennesaw State 4-1 551 4
5 Weber State 2-2 521 6
6 Illinois State 3-1 484 8
7 Montana State 4-1 477 11
8 Villanova 5-0 466 13
9 Montana 4-1 388 17
T-10 Central Arkansas 2-2 379 14
T-10 Towson 3-2 379 10
12 UC Davis 2-3 356 5
13 Northern Iowa 2-2 340 7
14 Furman 3-2 329 15
15 Nicholls 2-2 267 9
16 North Carolina A&T 3-1 265 18
17 Youngstown State 4-0 248 20
18 Delaware 3-2 189 19
19 Southeastern Louisiana 3-1 172 22
20 Jacksonville State 3-2 134 12
21 Eastern Washington 2-3 129 21
22 Maine 2-3 127 16
23 Princeton 2-0 91 23
24 Stony Brook 4-1 67 NR
T-25 Houston Baptist 4-1 34 NR
T-25 Southeast Missouri State 2-2 34 NR
Dropped Out: Elon (24), North Dakota (25)

Others Receiving Votes: Tennessee Tech, 23; South Carolina State, 21; Yale, 19; Austin Peay, 15; Dartmouth, 13; North Dakota, 13; Sacramento State, 12; Sam Houston State, 12; Elon, 9; Samford, 9; Idaho State, 5; Campbell, 3; Indiana State, 2; Central Connecticut State, 1; The Citadel, 1.
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PlayerRep wrote:The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat.

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Re: Stats poll

Post by Bobcatstan » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:10 am

My bad. Lol. Got an itchy trigger finger I guess😃😃



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Re: Stats poll

Post by cats2506 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:11 am

Bobcatstan wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:09 am
That's last week's poll
not any more [-X


PlayerRep wrote:The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat.

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Re: Stats poll

Post by Bobcatstan » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:15 am

Not sure why kennesaws so highly ranked. They have played literally nobody



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Re: Stats poll

Post by cats2506 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:17 am

I still don't understand Idaho State getting votes, they beat a DII and Portland State


PlayerRep wrote:The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat.

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Re: Stats poll

Post by cats2506 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:18 am

Bobcatstan wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:15 am
Not sure why kennesaws so highly ranked. They have played literally nobody
Still on last years record, they have a pretty easy schedule from here out too


PlayerRep wrote:The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat.

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Re: Stats poll

Post by cats2506 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:22 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:14 am
Chicago? how do you copy/past Haley's article and put your name on it?


PlayerRep wrote:The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat.

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Re: Stats poll

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:20 pm

cats2506 wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:22 am
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:14 am
Chicago? how do you copy/past Haley's article and put your name on it?
I am a voter in the STATS poll and Craig encourages us to run his release. It's accredited as press release.

Also, messed up the headline in the first one. First time since 2014. Montana and Montana State have both been in the top 10




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Re: Stats poll

Post by cats2506 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:27 pm

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:20 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:22 am
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:14 am
Chicago? how do you copy/past Haley's article and put your name on it?
I am a voter in the STATS poll and Craig encourages us to run his release. It's accredited as press release.

Also, messed up the headline in the first one. First time since 2014. Montana and Montana State have both been in the top 10

hey, I'm not a journalist and I don't know the rules. usually if a blog or site posts other peoples stuff I usually see credit or quotes. Would not have noticed without the Chicago location


PlayerRep wrote:The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat.

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Re: Stats poll

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:58 pm

Polls are kind of fun, but picking a top 25 for the FCS is like picking the 51st through 75th place teams in FBS. Or even the 16th through 40th. The teams are very unknown (the voters know so little about teams outside their own conference compared to the voters in the AP/Coaches polls) and erratic (Davis only loses to FBS top 25 Cal, then barely beats San Diego, then gives NDSU a good game on the road, then gets blown away at home by Montana) with just a couple exceptions and even those can go south in a hurry.

It is fun to try to figure out who the best teams are, but when you can't even figure out who the tops teams are in your own conference it's hard to expect anyone to be able to do it for the entire nation.

The coaches/media picked:
EWU
Davis
Weber
UM/MSU
NAU
ISU
Idaho
Poly
PSU
SAC/SUU
No. Colo.

Right now (based STATS poll with Big Sky preseason rank in parenthesis):
1. Weber (3)
2. MSU(4/5)
3. UM (4/5)
4. Davis (2)
5. EWU (1)
6. SAC (11/12)
7. ISU (7)
8. Poly (9)

Big Sky No. 6 NAU is at best 9th. No. 13 No. Colo. beat No. 8 Idaho. No. 8 Idaho beat No. 1 EWU.

I haven't done an in-depth comparison in any of the P5 conferences, but just from looking around I can see that none of them are this far off.


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Re: Stats poll

Post by catsrback76 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:20 pm

cats2506 wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:27 pm
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:20 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:22 am
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:14 am
Chicago? how do you copy/past Haley's article and put your name on it?
I am a voter in the STATS poll and Craig encourages us to run his release. It's accredited as press release.

Also, messed up the headline in the first one. First time since 2014. Montana and Montana State have both been in the top 10

hey, I'm not a journalist and I don't know the rules. usually if a blog or site posts other peoples stuff I usually see credit or quotes. Would not have noticed without the Chicago location
Wouldn't it also be proper respect to list Montana State and Montana in that order?



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Re: Stats poll

Post by thefrank1 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:53 pm

Not if you make your living in zoo town.


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Re: Stats poll

Post by KittieKop » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:04 pm

Or maybe hashtags for all the football programs you list in the article byline, not just #GrizFB.


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Re: Stats poll

Post by LIBBYCAT » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:35 pm

But there’s no bias here......



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Re: Stats poll

Post by 1984champ » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:33 am

LIBBYCAT wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:35 pm
But there’s no bias here......
You can really tell the bias when you overhear them talking about MSU football when they don't realize others can hear them. You can also tell when the N. brothers speak publicly about UM weaknesses as its always in a positive light and they will make corrections and improve. When it comes to MSU weaknesses, they laugh, shake their head and really like to emphasize the negatives. If they want me and others to believe there is no bias, there needs to be no bias. Fools gold and a lot of you are buying...



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