Here's hoping!wbtfg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:36 pmI’m hopeful the NAU DC is sleep deprived trying to prepare for Tucker and Troy.
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Don't let this distract you from the fact that the griz blew a 22-0 lead.
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Ya, 100% agree - it's funny how many people still think TA is going to become the starting QB again at some point. Not to say he might not trot out there for the first play of the game and run the wildcat, or even throw a pass or something but he will not be the actual QB, period.
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I don’t think he is a troll. I think it is just the type of person he is. He has posted some racial and discriminatory type of stuff in the past. Unfortunately, every fan base has tools like this. I think he should be called out every time he posts that kind of crap.Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:39 pmI generally don’t talk bad about people on here, generally we’re all Cat fans and just have some differing opinions here and there.grizzh8r wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:50 amAs is almost everything this bonehead posts on BN. truly the worst "bobcat fan" poster on this board. Maybe even THE worst, which is saying something...91catAlum wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:30 amThis is BS.FTG_1984 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:22 amWhen an O-line physically dominates a defensive front 7 like we did this past Saturday it is not difficult for the QB to have a good game. Not taking anything away from Rovig, and not doomsdaying anything, but our O-line will not be dominating the upcoming Big Sky opponents on our schedule to the same degree that we did against Norfolk St. Keep this in mind.
I would not be certain about us having any QB behind center unless it is #15.
The first 3 games our offense couldn't complete a simple wide receiver screen as the balls were always thrown in the dirt. Rovig completed those with ease Saturday. Had nothing to do with the offensive line's domination. Also threw a nice quick slant to Jonsen for a TD and the ball was out of his hands in about 2 seconds. Again, very little to do with the O line.
Stop trying to take away from the great job Rovig did. Was he perfect? No, but he looked good and made throws that were not being made before, regardless of the opponent.
The exception is this guy. He’s an idiot.
I actually think he might be a troll, he gets called out on this stuff all the time, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a response from him. He just makes a dumb comment and let’s it sit there with no backup, no clarification, anything.
He’s either a troll, getting a reaction from us all (I’ve been guilty more than once going at something he said) or he’s truly the worst Cat poster on this board.
Either way, his stuff gets old.
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Personally, I don't trust Choate when it comes to QB decisions and management. This is why that if Troy did come out and take 100% of the snaps, I wouldn't be surprised. I wish upon all hope he doesn't, but I just do not trust Choate in these matters right now. He appears to have taken a step forward by going with the hard decision to start Rovig against NSU, but I think many of us felt there was no way we were going back to Troy last year after Wagner...catatac wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:48 pmYa, 100% agree - it's funny how many people still think TA is going to become the starting QB again at some point. Not to say he might not trot out there for the first play of the game and run the wildcat, or even throw a pass or something but he will not be the actual QB, period.
This year should be different since Troy hasn't played hardly at all there, but man I just still have that sick feeling somewhere, buried way down in my gut, that Troy might trot out against NAU. I hate it.
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My read is very positive regarding Choates qb decision making. He is not afraid of the "2 QBs equal no QB" concern. He makes his decisions based on analysis of the opponents strengths and weaknesses. The results should encourage us all to trust his judgement.
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CelticCat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:55 pmPersonally, I don't trust Choate when it comes to QB decisions and management. This is why that if Troy did come out and take 100% of the snaps, I wouldn't be surprised. I wish upon all hope he doesn't, but I just do not trust Choate in these matters right now. He appears to have taken a step forward by going with the hard decision to start Rovig against NSU, but I think many of us felt there was no way we were going back to Troy last year after Wagner...catatac wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:48 pmYa, 100% agree - it's funny how many people still think TA is going to become the starting QB again at some point. Not to say he might not trot out there for the first play of the game and run the wildcat, or even throw a pass or something but he will not be the actual QB, period.
This year should be different since Troy hasn't played hardly at all there, but man I just still have that sick feeling somewhere, buried way down in my gut, that Troy might trot out against NAU. I hate it.
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We saw this too (earlier, Rovig had missed seeing a wide open Steel, instead going to the edge to a double covered receiver), and when he saw Steel this time it was like an o'chit moment and he couldn't seem to get rid of the ball fast enough, and don't think he missed seeing Steel being open after that.RobertCats wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:43 amWow, I honestly don't know what game you just watched. Rovig was not perfect, but he did not have to be, we don't need him to be. He needs to make the right read and hit the open receivers which he did all game long. His first td throw to Steel was WAY too late, should have hit him 4 seconds before he did (I still can't believe Coy was that wide open, he still walked in untouched), but to make up for it that throw to Snell was absolutely perfect, good velocity rolling to his left, into tight coverage for a 1st down. That was a tough and ballsy throw! There was SOO much more good than bad from Rovig this week, NSU has actually held up pretty good vs the pass this year.FTG_1984 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:22 amWhen an O-line physically dominates a defensive front 7 like we did this past Saturday it is not difficult for the QB to have a good game. Not taking anything away from Rovig, and not doomsdaying anything, but our O-line will not be dominating the upcoming Big Sky opponents on our schedule to the same degree that we did against Norfolk St. Keep this in mind.
I would not be certain about us having any QB behind center unless it is #15.
Rovig commanded the offense, made the throws he needed to make, involved 7 receivers (8 if you include himself ) and did not turn the ball over. If he plays like this all season (and I am confident he can) we are going to be tough to beat.
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My take on Choate's "we'll see" is the fact that Rovig has a propensity to lose his confidence if he isn't constantly reminded of his main focus. Choate has said that Rovig has let two past opportunities slip by because of this. So he's taking a wait and see attitude whether this past game will launch Rovig's stability, or merely be a high point against a lesser opponent. I think he has to do the same against a good team to solidify his confidence.
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I said a long time ago that Choate would sit Bauman after 3 games. I took some heat on that comment with many saying no way and that Bauman isn’t on a short leash. Well 3 games is a pretty short leash. Where I was wrong is that I said Andersen would be the QB (as opposed to Rovig). Will be very interesting to see, if Rovig has a rough game against NAU (which is very possible) what is the answer. Does Choate roll Bauman back out there or do you see Andersen? Or does he roll out a 5 QB system at that point.
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You probably actually said that Andersen would be playing quarterback right now, which would make you completely wrong.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:19 pmI said a long time ago that Choate would sit Bauman after 3 games. I took some heat on that comment with many saying no way and that Bauman isn’t on a short leash. Well 3 games is a pretty short leash. Where I was wrong is that I said Andersen would be the QB (as opposed to Rovig). Will be very interesting to see, if Rovig has a rough game against NAU (which is very possible) what is the answer. Does Choate roll Bauman back out there or do you see Andersen? Or does he roll out a 5 QB system at that point.
If Rovig has no success against NAU’s pass defense, it’ll be surprising. It isn’t “very possible” as you put it. NAU has a average pass defense. But IF he does, then Choate will probably re-evaluate the situation. Troy appears to be available with the sudden rise of Hardy. So I’d say he’d be the next option, if it ever came down to that. I don’t see many teams with a defense that will cause what you’re thinking to happen.
MSU’s quarterbacks need to take care of the ball (0 fumbles/0 interceptions this year) and hit open receivers. They don’t need to make a lot of passes into tight coverage for the offense to succeed.
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I pretty sure he made that statement when everyone thought Rovig was going to be the starter and Bauman hadn't be named yet. Then when Bauman was named starter he went off about how terrible they both are and troy would start week 4.iaafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:34 pmYou probably actually said that Andersen would be playing quarterback right now, which would make you completely wrong.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:19 pmI said a long time ago that Choate would sit Bauman after 3 games. I took some heat on that comment with many saying no way and that Bauman isn’t on a short leash. Well 3 games is a pretty short leash. Where I was wrong is that I said Andersen would be the QB (as opposed to Rovig). Will be very interesting to see, if Rovig has a rough game against NAU (which is very possible) what is the answer. Does Choate roll Bauman back out there or do you see Andersen? Or does he roll out a 5 QB system at that point.
If Rovig has no success against NAU’s pass defense, it’ll be surprising. It isn’t “very possible” as you put it. NAU has a average pass defense. But IF he does, then Choate will probably re-evaluate the situation. Troy appears to be available with the sudden rise of Hardy. So I’d say he’d be the next option, if it ever came down to that. I don’t see many teams with a defense that will cause what you’re thinking to happen.
MSU’s quarterbacks need to take care of the ball (0 fumbles/0 interceptions this year) and hit open receivers. They don’t need to make a lot of passes into tight coverage for the offense to succeed.
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Look. What Choate tells the media and what Choate tells his team behind closed doors are different things. Tucker is starting, knows he's starting, and know Choate is confident in him. This isn't a "wait and see" moment, it's people over analyzing a comment made to the media that means next to nothing.Helcat72 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:10 pmMy take on Choate's "we'll see" is the fact that Rovig has a propensity to lose his confidence if he isn't constantly reminded of his main focus. Choate has said that Rovig has let two past opportunities slip by because of this. So he's taking a wait and see attitude whether this past game will launch Rovig's stability, or merely be a high point against a lesser opponent. I think he has to do the same against a good team to solidify his confidence.
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EXACTLY! We have moved on and shaped our offense for a more traditional QB. I honestly think TA would be 5th string QB right now behind Rovig, Bauman, Beltran, Jonsen.
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The second best part about all this is that the opposing coaches have to prepare for all these looks. The best part is when they don’t win regardless of who’s the QB.
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I don't remember all of the threads because there were countless regarding our qb situation.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:19 pmI said a long time ago that Choate would sit Bauman after 3 games. I took some heat on that comment with many saying no way and that Bauman isn’t on a short leash. Well 3 games is a pretty short leash. Where I was wrong is that I said Andersen would be the QB (as opposed to Rovig). Will be very interesting to see, if Rovig has a rough game against NAU (which is very possible) what is the answer. Does Choate roll Bauman back out there or do you see Andersen? Or does he roll out a 5 QB system at that point.
Speaking for me personally, I was only shooting down the idea of Troy starting qb for the Cats after three games, which was said a LOT. Maybe not by you specifically but many Griz fans are for whatever reason convinced that Troy will be playing qb. He simply won't be. As I said all summer and many Cat fans agreed...he's going to take snaps back there. As will Jonsen. And Kassis. So if we want to call them all qb's if they take snaps then yes, the Bobcats have a 6-qb system....
Now, why some would say there was NO WAY that Bauman could be pulled, I have no idea. It was pretty neck and neck battle all summer I thought. I was one who thought CB looked better this fall. I wasn't surprised he won the job. But he's a redshirt freshman playing his first meaningful minutes. I won't pretend to know more than I do but it was clear he wasn't playing at the level we needed him to. So I wasn't even a little surprised we made a move. What else should we do? So I'd totally back you up if you got blasted for predicting we might go to Rovig at some point.
But I would have fully shot the idea down that Troy will ever be our full time starter again. And I stand by that. And no matter how many Griz fans for whatever reason think it'll happen....it's just not going to happen.
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Pssst! Hey grizaddict. C’mere. You’re right. Troy’s gonna be the starter. Shhh. Now go tell Bahbay you sneaky bastedge.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:57 pmI don't remember all of the threads because there were countless regarding our qb situation.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:19 pmI said a long time ago that Choate would sit Bauman after 3 games. I took some heat on that comment with many saying no way and that Bauman isn’t on a short leash. Well 3 games is a pretty short leash. Where I was wrong is that I said Andersen would be the QB (as opposed to Rovig). Will be very interesting to see, if Rovig has a rough game against NAU (which is very possible) what is the answer. Does Choate roll Bauman back out there or do you see Andersen? Or does he roll out a 5 QB system at that point.
Speaking for me personally, I was only shooting down the idea of Troy starting qb for the Cats after three games, which was said a LOT. Maybe not by you specifically but many Griz fans are for whatever reason convinced that Troy will be playing qb. He simply won't be. As I said all summer and many Cat fans agreed...he's going to take snaps back there. As will Jonsen. And Kassis. So if we want to call them all qb's if they take snaps then yes, the Bobcats have a 6-qb system....
Now, why some would say there was NO WAY that Bauman could be pulled, I have no idea. It was pretty neck and neck battle all summer I thought. I was one who thought CB looked better this fall. I wasn't surprised he won the job. But he's a redshirt freshman playing his first meaningful minutes. I won't pretend to know more than I do but it was clear he wasn't playing at the level we needed him to. So I wasn't even a little surprised we made a move. What else should we do? So I'd totally back you up if you got blasted for predicting we might go to Rovig at some point.
But I would have fully shot the idea down that Troy will ever be our full time starter again. And I stand by that. And no matter how many Griz fans for whatever reason think it'll happen....it's just not going to happen.
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It is a Nightmare for a DC to prepare to play the Cat's thats for sure.
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A short leash would be throwing a couple picks and getting pulled in first half of a game. Getting your chance for three games and having the accuracy issue here did is not a short leash
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Good point. Not too many QBs that win the job just two weeks before the season last as long as Bauman did playing the way he did.
However, I think this has been a great experience for Bauman. Sometimes you have to go through stuff like this, then sit back and observe, study, train. Then comeback the better for it. Ya know, just like Rovig.