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QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:39 am
by superbobcat
What are people hearing on our QB situation?
1. Is Murray involved in Spring practice?
2. How is Rovig's foot healing?
3. Has Bauman bulked up and found a little more speed?
4. Can Beltran break through and pass the others?
I think all four offer something different. I also feel all four could be a solid starter depending on the philosophy. Coach Miller has a lot to work with!
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:05 am
by VimSince03
superbobcat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:39 am
What are people hearing on our QB situation?
1. Is Murray involved in Spring practice?
2. How is Rovig's foot healing?
3. Has Bauman bulked up and found a little more speed?
4. Can Beltran break through and pass the others?
I think all four offer something different. I also feel all four could be a solid starter depending on the philosophy. Coach Miller has a lot to work with!
Rovig is leader in the clubhouse. Foot is fine. Bauman will push him. Beltran is #3. Murray is focusing on school and working out with the team only. I don't think he will participate in practices this spring. His time will come after his grades are posted this spring.
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:16 am
by 91catAlum
I sure hope Bauman hasn't bulked up any more! Kid is 6'6" 230 and plays QB!
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:32 am
by gtapp
91catAlum wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:16 am
I sure hope Bauman hasn't bulked up any more! Kid is 6'6" 230 and plays QB!
I also noticed the poster mentined bulking up and adding speed in the same post. Can't have both. Which do you want?
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:36 am
by VimSince03
gtapp wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:32 am
91catAlum wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:16 am
I sure hope Bauman hasn't bulked up any more! Kid is 6'6" 230 and plays QB!
I also noticed the poster mentined bulking up and adding speed in the same post. Can't have both. Which do you want?
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:21 am
by AFCAT
VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:36 am
gtapp wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:32 am
91catAlum wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:16 am
I sure hope Bauman hasn't bulked up any more! Kid is 6'6" 230 and plays QB!
I also noticed the poster mentined bulking up and adding speed in the same post. Can't have both. Which do you want?
I thought Troy had that covered. Can you have two on your team? Capes getting tangled up and all.
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:29 pm
by allcat
VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:36 am
gtapp wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:32 am
91catAlum wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:16 am
I sure hope Bauman hasn't bulked up any more! Kid is 6'6" 230 and plays QB!
I also noticed the poster mentined bulking up and adding speed in the same post. Can't have both. Which do you want?
2 on one team?
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:44 pm
by bobcat99
gtapp wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:32 am
91catAlum wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:16 am
I sure hope Bauman hasn't bulked up any more! Kid is 6'6" 230 and plays QB!
I also noticed the poster mentined bulking up and adding speed in the same post. Can't have both. Which do you want?
Gary, that's simply not true.
Many, many, many players have added weight and speed.
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:58 pm
by gtapp
bobcat99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:44 pm
gtapp wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:32 am
91catAlum wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:16 am
I sure hope Bauman hasn't bulked up any more! Kid is 6'6" 230 and plays QB!
I also noticed the poster mentined bulking up and adding speed in the same post. Can't have both. Which do you want?
Gary, that's simply not true.
Many, many, many players have added weight and speed.
Actually very few have accomplished this task. Maybe if they gain 5 lbs or less. Besides we are talking about Bauman here not Anderson. He was already not the fastest guy. Now you take a 230 lbs. QBand add weight????
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:05 pm
by bobcat99
gtapp wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:58 pm
bobcat99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:44 pm
gtapp wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:32 am
91catAlum wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:16 am
I sure hope Bauman hasn't bulked up any more! Kid is 6'6" 230 and plays QB!
I also noticed the poster mentined bulking up and adding speed in the same post. Can't have both. Which do you want?
Gary, that's simply not true.
Many, many, many players have added weight and speed.
Actually very few have accomplished this task. Maybe if they gain 5 lbs or less. Besides we are talking about Bauman here not Anderson. He was already not the fastest guy. Now you take a 230 lbs. QBand add weight????
The vast majority of NFL players have gained weight and increased speed from HS to the combine. The testing numbers are out there, go ahead and look.
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:07 pm
by superbobcat
My thought was I don't see any way around the fact that as he lifts and matures, he is going to be a BIG BOY. I hope foot speed and mobility come with the growth. I kind of see a Ben Rothlisburger type player.
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:51 pm
by Hawks86
The old saying of getting bigger, stronger, and faster has now been changed to bigger, stronger, or faster.
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:28 pm
by 94VegasCat
So let me get this straight. A high school kid gets a scholly to play football at XYZ State U because he’s the fastest guy in XYZ. As he matures and adds weight and strength, he’ll never be faster than the day he set foot on campus? That’s the most rediculous thing I’ve heard in a while on BN.
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:56 pm
by coloradocat
You know it's been too long since the season ended when a thread goes off the rails this fast.
Re: QB Update
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:21 pm
by TomCat88
superbobcat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:39 am
What are people hearing on our QB situation?
1. Is Murray involved in Spring practice?
2. How is Rovig's foot healing?
3. Has Bauman bulked up and found a little more speed?
4. Can Beltran break through and pass the others?
I think all four offer something different. I also feel all four could be a solid starter depending on the philosophy. Coach Miller has a lot to work with!
I thought you said update. Should be QB questions
Re: QB Update
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:17 am
by Norsky19
94VegasCat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:28 pm
So let me get this straight. A high school kid gets a scholly to play football at XYZ State U because he’s the fastest guy in XYZ. As he matures and adds weight and strength, he’ll never be faster than the day he set foot on campus? That’s the most rediculous thing I’ve heard in a while on BN.
Correct.
Some theories say muscle contracts at a speed determined by genetics. If this is true, top speed won't change as measured by a radar gun. However, with more muscle you can get to your inherent top speed quicker, realizing a faster 40 time. I'll take quickness over top speed in football....both are awesome. My own 40 times, vertical and cone drill results all improved greatly through Olympic lifts and heavy power lifting. I also gained 20 lbs over 3 years. Increased weight, increased quickness vastly increased impacts. Not to mention improved running mechanics and muscle memory through training and practice.....
Newer research contests some of these older ones by showing muscle can contract faster with training (fast twitch) and combined with explosive training...well you get the idea. BIGGER FASTER STRONGER. (not the program
https://uk.humankinetics.com/blogs/exce ... tion-speed
Training the nervous system to recruit more fibers at any given moment in time is another factor in power output. Trained athletes are able to recruit a higher percentage then average folks through training and have vastly improved quickness with hypertrophied cells. Ironically couch potatoes have a higher percentage of Type IIB cells.....it's complicated.
(allows for fight or flight response with a dose of epinephrine)
Re: QB Update
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:32 am
by Montanabob
Norsky19 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:17 am
94VegasCat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:28 pm
So let me get this straight. A high school kid gets a scholly to play football at XYZ State U because he’s the fastest guy in XYZ. As he matures and adds weight and strength, he’ll never be faster than the day he set foot on campus? That’s the most rediculous thing I’ve heard in a while on BN.
Correct.
Some theories say muscle contracts at a speed determined by genetics. If this is true, top speed won't change as measured by a radar gun. However, with more muscle you can get to your inherent top speed quicker, realizing a faster 40 time. I'll take quickness over top speed in football....both are awesome. My own 40 times, vertical and cone drill results all improved greatly through Olympic lifts and heavy power lifting. I also gained 20 lbs over 3 years. Increased weight, increased quickness vastly increased impacts. Not to mention improved running mechanics and muscle memory through training and practice.....
Newer research contests some of these older ones by showing muscle can contract faster with training (fast twitch) and combined with explosive training...well you get the idea. BIGGER FASTER STRONGER. (not the program
https://uk.humankinetics.com/blogs/exce ... tion-speed
Training the nervous system to recruit more fibers at any given moment in time is another factor in power output. Trained athletes are able to recruit a higher percentage then average folks through training and have vastly improved quickness with hypertrophied cells. Ironically couch potatoes have a higher percentage of Type IIB cells.....it's complicated.
(allows for fight or flight response with a dose of epinephrine)
So what you're saying is now that I gained a hundred pounds I should be able to run a hundred-yard dash in under 10 seconds,? Cool, to bad I used up all of my eligibility or I'd be a badass on the field now.
Re: QB Update
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:11 pm
by Joe Bobcat
Ha ha MTbob if only it were that easy.
I don't know you but highly doubt that you gained those 100 pounds from the right training program.
Re: QB Update
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:46 am
by 94VegasCat
Norsky19 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:17 am
94VegasCat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:28 pm
So let me get this straight. A high school kid gets a scholly to play football at XYZ State U because he’s the fastest guy in XYZ. As he matures and adds weight and strength, he’ll never be faster than the day he set foot on campus? That’s the most rediculous thing I’ve heard in a while on BN.
Correct.
Some theories say muscle contracts at a speed determined by genetics. If this is true, top speed won't change as measured by a radar gun. However, with more muscle you can get to your inherent top speed quicker, realizing a faster 40 time. I'll take quickness over top speed in football....both are awesome. My own 40 times, vertical and cone drill results all improved greatly through Olympic lifts and heavy power lifting. I also gained 20 lbs over 3 years. Increased weight, increased quickness vastly increased impacts. Not to mention improved running mechanics and muscle memory through training and practice.....
Newer research contests some of these older ones by showing muscle can contract faster with training (fast twitch) and combined with explosive training...well you get the idea. BIGGER FASTER STRONGER. (not the program
https://uk.humankinetics.com/blogs/exce ... tion-speed
Training the nervous system to recruit more fibers at any given moment in time is another factor in power output. Trained athletes are able to recruit a higher percentage then average folks through training and have vastly improved quickness with hypertrophied cells. Ironically couch potatoes have a higher percentage of Type IIB cells.....it's complicated.
(allows for fight or flight response with a dose of epinephrine)
What’s the average distance it takes an elite athletes to get to full speed? If it’s ‘burst’ that’s increasing, the 40 time is getting better albeit small increments (if I’m reading correctly). Troy Anderson it appears, hits max speed within a few strides. Chris Murray appears as such too. Not saying they are elite runners but damn impressive by Big Sky Conference standards.
Re: QB Update
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:02 am
by CatBlitz
Train by running at a decline and I guarantee you'll get faster.