QB Update

[imacat]

I would not say Rovig is a better passer than Murray. Before Murray left he was far and away the better QB in spring ball running and throwing. I hope Rovig or another comes out on top but until they prove it I’m not seeing anybody above Chris right now. Again, I hope I’m wrong
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Why would you hope you are wrong? I just want the QB that gives us the best chance to win.

[Montanabob]

Kill this thread until August 15

[94VegasCat]

Kill this thread until August 15

Maybe until after the Sonny Holland game.

[Helcat72]

Would you be saying Murray is behind the others if he had been injured for a year instead?

Well, if he had blown his knee he might be physically behind the others, but his understanding (timing, chemistry) would be ahead of three guys with just a fraction of the experience.

At this point no one is ahead of him in that regard.

Murray isn’t a good passer. If someone is going to beat him out it’ll be because they’re significantly better at that aspect. If they’re only marginally better, they won’t beat him out because no one else can run anything like him.

Murray wins the foot race, Rovig will win the QB battle based on his capacity to distribute the ball. And someone will actually say this season of Rovig, "wow, his wheels are better than I thought..."! I don't think Coach wants to get painted into a corner again at QB like the previous years where we could only basically run it. So, the question should be, 'has Murray progressed and developed enough into a passer to be given a legitimate chance to win the QB battle?"

It would be great if he did, but I would say his focus has been more on academics than passing...but I will wait to see how it pans out in Spring/Fall camp.

When did Rovig show that he has more ability than Murry to distribute the ball? The Wagner game? How 'bout the SDSU game? I am certainly not saying he won't develop into a fine QB for us but assuming that he gives us a better chance to win than CM seems like a stretch to me. I hope whomever said they will eat their hat if CM is the starter likes a lot of ketchup. Maybe I am completely wrong and Rovig or Bauman will light it up without any experience but I believe the odds are with Chris.

I still have a hard time understanding why people continue to discredit Rovig's performance against Wagner. He had a fantastic game. It doesn't matter that it was against a mediocre team. He did exactly what he needed to do and put up awesome numbers. As far as the SDSU game is concerned I guess you can knock him for that, but the team had at least 4 dropped passes in the 1st 20 minutes alone, and at least 3 would have been 1st downs and kept drives going. 1st career playing time and we were forced into passing in the 2nd quarter. I will also eat my hat if Murray is the starter come gameday

Let's not forget the small sample from PSU.

I forget, what happened in that game? Percentage completed? Yards per catch? I am a bit foggy on that game...can anyone help?

He was 2-2. One was a wheel route to Troy Anderson who jumped above the defender and caught the pass.

[catsrback76]

Would you be saying Murray is behind the others if he had been injured for a year instead?

Well, if he had blown his knee he might be physically behind the others, but his understanding (timing, chemistry) would be ahead of three guys with just a fraction of the experience.

At this point no one is ahead of him in that regard.

Murray isn’t a good passer. If someone is going to beat him out it’ll be because they’re significantly better at that aspect. If they’re only marginally better, they won’t beat him out because no one else can run anything like him.

Murray wins the foot race, Rovig will win the QB battle based on his capacity to distribute the ball. And someone will actually say this season of Rovig, "wow, his wheels are better than I thought..."! I don't think Coach wants to get painted into a corner again at QB like the previous years where we could only basically run it. So, the question should be, 'has Murray progressed and developed enough into a passer to be given a legitimate chance to win the QB battle?"

It would be great if he did, but I would say his focus has been more on academics than passing...but I will wait to see how it pans out in Spring/Fall camp.

When did Rovig show that he has more ability than Murry to distribute the ball? The Wagner game? How 'bout the SDSU game? I am certainly not saying he won't develop into a fine QB for us but assuming that he gives us a better chance to win than CM seems like a stretch to me. I hope whomever said they will eat their hat if CM is the starter likes a lot of ketchup. Maybe I am completely wrong and Rovig or Bauman will light it up without any experience but I believe the odds are with Chris.

I still have a hard time understanding why people continue to discredit Rovig's performance against Wagner. He had a fantastic game. It doesn't matter that it was against a mediocre team. He did exactly what he needed to do and put up awesome numbers. As far as the SDSU game is concerned I guess you can knock him for that, but the team had at least 4 dropped passes in the 1st 20 minutes alone, and at least 3 would have been 1st downs and kept drives going. 1st career playing time and we were forced into passing in the 2nd quarter. I will also eat my hat if Murray is the starter come gameday

Let's not forget the small sample from PSU.

I forget, what happened in that game? Percentage completed? Yards per catch? I am a bit foggy on that game...can anyone help?

He was 2-2. One was a wheel route to Troy Anderson who jumped above the defender and caught the pass.

Wow, even better than I thought. I knew he threw a couple of completions, but I didn't remember not missing on one. To come in off the bench cold and throw dimes...well most of us experts on the board could do it, but the average donk couldn't!

[TomCat88]

Would you be saying Murray is behind the others if he had been injured for a year instead?

Well, if he had blown his knee he might be physically behind the others, but his understanding (timing, chemistry) would be ahead of three guys with just a fraction of the experience.

At this point no one is ahead of him in that regard.

Murray isn’t a good passer. If someone is going to beat him out it’ll be because they’re significantly better at that aspect. If they’re only marginally better, they won’t beat him out because no one else can run anything like him.

Murray wins the foot race, Rovig will win the QB battle based on his capacity to distribute the ball. And someone will actually say this season of Rovig, "wow, his wheels are better than I thought..."! I don't think Coach wants to get painted into a corner again at QB like the previous years where we could only basically run it. So, the question should be, 'has Murray progressed and developed enough into a passer to be given a legitimate chance to win the QB battle?"

It would be great if he did, but I would say his focus has been more on academics than passing...but I will wait to see how it pans out in Spring/Fall camp.

When did Rovig show that he has more ability than Murry to distribute the ball? The Wagner game? How 'bout the SDSU game? I am certainly not saying he won't develop into a fine QB for us but assuming that he gives us a better chance to win than CM seems like a stretch to me. I hope whomever said they will eat their hat if CM is the starter likes a lot of ketchup. Maybe I am completely wrong and Rovig or Bauman will light it up without any experience but I believe the odds are with Chris.

I still have a hard time understanding why people continue to discredit Rovig's performance against Wagner. He had a fantastic game. It doesn't matter that it was against a mediocre team. He did exactly what he needed to do and put up awesome numbers. As far as the SDSU game is concerned I guess you can knock him for that, but the team had at least 4 dropped passes in the 1st 20 minutes alone, and at least 3 would have been 1st downs and kept drives going. 1st career playing time and we were forced into passing in the 2nd quarter. I will also eat my hat if Murray is the starter come gameday

Let's not forget the small sample from PSU.

I forget, what happened in that game? Percentage completed? Yards per catch? I am a bit foggy on that game...can anyone help?

He was 2-2. One was a wheel route to Troy Anderson who jumped above the defender and caught the pass.

Wow, even better than I thought. I knew he threw a couple of completions, but I didn't remember not missing on one. To come in off the bench cold and throw dimes...well most of us experts on the board could do it, but the average donk couldn't!

Is Choate looking for a transfer QB?

[Bobcatsinmso]

Murray may be done all together from what I just heard. Hope its not true, the rumor is couldn't make the grades again....

[91catAlum]

Murray may be done all together from what I just heard. Hope its not true, the rumor is couldn't make the grades again....

It's March. Grades come out in December and May. So it's unlikely this rumor is true.

BUT this is exactly why Choate will never have him as starting QB again. It's a risk you cannot take again.

[utucats]

This is the same as last year....

As long as TA was practicing with the QBs you knew he would start. He had to, can’t have him on the sideline.

Murray is the same sort of talent. If he is practicing as a QB he’ll start.

[Montanabob]

Murray may be done all together from what I just heard. Hope its not true, the rumor is couldn't make the grades again....

It's March. Grades come out in December and May. So it's unlikely this rumor is true.

BUT this is exactly why Choate will never have him as starting QB again. It's a risk you cannot take again.

Yeah and midterm grades came out at spring break. I'm sure the conditions of potential scholarship was based on academic progress. Again, let's wait until August, or at least April 6.

[GoldstoneCat]

Saying he's behind the other 3 because he missed last season just simply isn't true. The offense and its coordinator changed last year, it's probably evolving more over the winter. Rovig played a couple games and looked decent, but it isn't like he locked down the job for the next 3 years. Chris is electric. I'm sure he's also more physically mature than he was at cat griz 2017. To me, he's the default until someone takes it from him. I might be wrong (happens on a regular basis), but I'll believe someone else is our starter when i see it on the field.

You're right. The offense is evolving this winter. And Chris doesn't get to be in on that until he proves his grades are up. So that's a set back for him and a leg up for everyone else.

But when he returns from getting his grades up he will be smarter, bigger, stronger and faster.

We'll see. Maybe I've got it wrong, but rovig didn't beat out the guy who couldn't throw at all last year, so forgive my skepticism. Not meant as criticism of troy, btw, he carried us the last month but objectively his passing was mostly awful. And I'd love it if rovig wins the job, means he's outplayed everyone and deserves it. Guess we'll see.

[luckyirishguy25]

Saying he's behind the other 3 because he missed last season just simply isn't true. The offense and its coordinator changed last year, it's probably evolving more over the winter. Rovig played a couple games and looked decent, but it isn't like he locked down the job for the next 3 years. Chris is electric. I'm sure he's also more physically mature than he was at cat griz 2017. To me, he's the default until someone takes it from him. I might be wrong (happens on a regular basis), but I'll believe someone else is our starter when i see it on the field.

You're right. The offense is evolving this winter. And Chris doesn't get to be in on that until he proves his grades are up. So that's a set back for him and a leg up for everyone else.

But when he returns from getting his grades up he will be smarter, bigger, stronger and faster.

We'll see. Maybe I've got it wrong, but rovig didn't beat out the guy who couldn't throw at all last year, so forgive my skepticism. Not meant as criticism of troy, btw, he carried us the last month but objectively his passing was mostly awful. And I'd love it if rovig wins the job, means he's outplayed everyone and deserves it. Guess we'll see.

Rovig won the starting job last year, then he broke his foot at practice... so yeah.

[TomCat88]

Saying he's behind the other 3 because he missed last season just simply isn't true. The offense and its coordinator changed last year, it's probably evolving more over the winter. Rovig played a couple games and looked decent, but it isn't like he locked down the job for the next 3 years. Chris is electric. I'm sure he's also more physically mature than he was at cat griz 2017. To me, he's the default until someone takes it from him. I might be wrong (happens on a regular basis), but I'll believe someone else is our starter when i see it on the field.

You're right. The offense is evolving this winter. And Chris doesn't get to be in on that until he proves his grades are up. So that's a set back for him and a leg up for everyone else.

But when he returns from getting his grades up he will be smarter, bigger, stronger and faster.

We'll see. Maybe I've got it wrong, but rovig didn't beat out the guy who couldn't throw at all last year, so forgive my skepticism. Not meant as criticism of troy, btw, he carried us the last month but objectively his passing was mostly awful. And I'd love it if rovig wins the job, means he's outplayed everyone and deserves it. Guess we'll see.

Rovig won the starting job last year, then he broke his foot at practice... so yeah.

Rovig did in fact beat out the eventual co-1st team All Big Sky quarterback.

[GoldstoneCat]

Saying he's behind the other 3 because he missed last season just simply isn't true. The offense and its coordinator changed last year, it's probably evolving more over the winter. Rovig played a couple games and looked decent, but it isn't like he locked down the job for the next 3 years. Chris is electric. I'm sure he's also more physically mature than he was at cat griz 2017. To me, he's the default until someone takes it from him. I might be wrong (happens on a regular basis), but I'll believe someone else is our starter when i see it on the field.

You're right. The offense is evolving this winter. And Chris doesn't get to be in on that until he proves his grades are up. So that's a set back for him and a leg up for everyone else.

But when he returns from getting his grades up he will be smarter, bigger, stronger and faster.

We'll see. Maybe I've got it wrong, but rovig didn't beat out the guy who couldn't throw at all last year, so forgive my skepticism. Not meant as criticism of troy, btw, he carried us the last month but objectively his passing was mostly awful. And I'd love it if rovig wins the job, means he's outplayed everyone and deserves it. Guess we'll see.

Rovig won the starting job last year, then he broke his foot at practice... so yeah.

Rovig did in fact beat out the eventual co-1st team All Big Sky quarterback.

Ok, didn't know that since he never started after he won the job, due to the injury. I'll concede, he's certain to be the starter next year. Murray is certain not to be. They're keeping Murray around to convert him to a wide receiver, clearly. Every indication choate has given the last 2 years is that he doesn't want a running-capable QB. My bad.

[GoldstoneCat]

Saying he's behind the other 3 because he missed last season just simply isn't true. The offense and its coordinator changed last year, it's probably evolving more over the winter. Rovig played a couple games and looked decent, but it isn't like he locked down the job for the next 3 years. Chris is electric. I'm sure he's also more physically mature than he was at cat griz 2017. To me, he's the default until someone takes it from him. I might be wrong (happens on a regular basis), but I'll believe someone else is our starter when i see it on the field.

You're right. The offense is evolving this winter. And Chris doesn't get to be in on that until he proves his grades are up. So that's a set back for him and a leg up for everyone else.

But when he returns from getting his grades up he will be smarter, bigger, stronger and faster.

We'll see. Maybe I've got it wrong, but rovig didn't beat out the guy who couldn't throw at all last year, so forgive my skepticism. Not meant as criticism of troy, btw, he carried us the last month but objectively his passing was mostly awful. And I'd love it if rovig wins the job, means he's outplayed everyone and deserves it. Guess we'll see.

Rovig won the starting job last year, then he broke his foot at practice... so yeah.

Rovig did in fact beat out the eventual co-1st team All Big Sky quarterback.

Ok, didn't know that since he never started after he won the job, due to the injury. I'll concede, Murray has no chance to be the qb next year, with all the inspired choices who've so clearly passed him up. They're keeping Murray around to convert him to a wide receiver, clearly. Every indication choate has given the last 2 years is that he doesn't want a running-capable QB. My bad.

[Cataholic]

Saying he's behind the other 3 because he missed last season just simply isn't true. The offense and its coordinator changed last year, it's probably evolving more over the winter. Rovig played a couple games and looked decent, but it isn't like he locked down the job for the next 3 years. Chris is electric. I'm sure he's also more physically mature than he was at cat griz 2017. To me, he's the default until someone takes it from him. I might be wrong (happens on a regular basis), but I'll believe someone else is our starter when i see it on the field.

You're right. The offense is evolving this winter. And Chris doesn't get to be in on that until he proves his grades are up. So that's a set back for him and a leg up for everyone else.

But when he returns from getting his grades up he will be smarter, bigger, stronger and faster.

We'll see. Maybe I've got it wrong, but rovig didn't beat out the guy who couldn't throw at all last year, so forgive my skepticism. Not meant as criticism of troy, btw, he carried us the last month but objectively his passing was mostly awful. And I'd love it if rovig wins the job, means he's outplayed everyone and deserves it. Guess we'll see.

Rovig won the starting job last year, then he broke his foot at practice... so yeah.

Rovig did in fact beat out the eventual co-1st team All Big Sky quarterback.

Didn’t Rovig get his first start against SDSU because Troy broke his hand?

[luckyirishguy25]

Saying he's behind the other 3 because he missed last season just simply isn't true. The offense and its coordinator changed last year, it's probably evolving more over the winter. Rovig played a couple games and looked decent, but it isn't like he locked down the job for the next 3 years. Chris is electric. I'm sure he's also more physically mature than he was at cat griz 2017. To me, he's the default until someone takes it from him. I might be wrong (happens on a regular basis), but I'll believe someone else is our starter when i see it on the field.

You're right. The offense is evolving this winter. And Chris doesn't get to be in on that until he proves his grades are up. So that's a set back for him and a leg up for everyone else.

But when he returns from getting his grades up he will be smarter, bigger, stronger and faster.

We'll see. Maybe I've got it wrong, but rovig didn't beat out the guy who couldn't throw at all last year, so forgive my skepticism. Not meant as criticism of troy, btw, he carried us the last month but objectively his passing was mostly awful. And I'd love it if rovig wins the job, means he's outplayed everyone and deserves it. Guess we'll see.

Rovig won the starting job last year, then he broke his foot at practice... so yeah.

Rovig did in fact beat out the eventual co-1st team All Big Sky quarterback.

Didn’t Rovig get his first start against SDSU because Troy broke his hand?

Yep, but by the time we were to play Idaho, Choate handed the reins to Rovig, then he broke his foot like 3 days before the game.

[GoldstoneCat]

Let me clarify: i think Murray is going to be the starter. If it's rovig, that's a bonus because IMO he's got a higher bar to clear this year to win the job with Murray back, bauman a year older etc. I think our team will be better no matter which one wins it, because it frees troy up to immediately improve the second level of our defense, while being a major factor on 6-10 offensive touches. IMO, Chris's level of involvement or lack thereof this spring will mean very little unless choate names an unequivocal starter coming out of spring ball.

[utucats]

I like how everyone on here just assumes that it’s easy to play wide receiver.

Want to start someone else at QB? No problem just move the other guy to WR!

[bobcat99]

I like how everyone on here just assumes that it’s easy to play wide receiver.

Want to start someone else at QB? No problem just move the other guy to WR!

RB and WR are the easiest positions to learn. Doesn't mean easy, but easiest.