Dixie State scheduled

[Cataholic]

Cats get 2 for 80
Davis gets 2 for 60
Weber gets 2 for 30
SUU gets 2 for 25

Some of that can be attributed to distance and travel expense. That extra 200 miles from Bozeman to Missoula must be cost at least $160,000 more!!

[Montanabob]

Cats get 2 for 80
Davis gets 2 for 60
Weber gets 2 for 30
SUU gets 2 for 25

Some of that can be attributed to distance and travel expense. That extra 200 miles from Bozeman to Missoula must be cost at least $160,000 more!!

Rumor has it that in 2020 Northern Colorado will play a home game with Dixie State for $80k..... to be paid to Dixie State..

[autocat]

City college in missoula is out of money, so not paying any money until 2027 make sense

They still owe five million on the on the "lack of championship center"

I think it's time to declare bankruptcy and shut the place down

[Grizaddict]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

[Cataholic]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

You are a real idiot. A typical guarantee is nowhere near $300,000 for an FCS game. Did you even read the arrival quoted??? Illinois State is guaranteeing $85,000 to Dixie. Weber is guaranteeing $80,000. MSU is guaranteeing $80,000. Weber is guaranteeing $60,000. The only schools with strange bad deals are UM and SDSU. Here is the article again:

https://fbschedules.com/dixie-state-byu ... schedules/

And maybe show one example of a $300,000 guarantee for an FCS visitor before calling it a “typical” number...

[Grizaddict]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

You are a real idiot. A typical guarantee is nowhere near $300,000 for an FCS game. Did you even read the arrival quoted??? Illinois State is guaranteeing $85,000 to Dixie. Weber is guaranteeing $80,000. MSU is guaranteeing $80,000. Weber is guaranteeing $60,000. The only schools with strange bad deals are UM and SDSU. Here is the article again:

https://fbschedules.com/dixie-state-byu ... schedules/

And maybe show one example of a $300,000 guarantee for an FCS visitor before calling it a “typical” number...

You asked for 1.....I know for a fact NDSU paid Charleston Southern 300k to come to Fargo. This stuff isn’t published and easy to find. Ask anyone in the know at MSU, I promise you will find lots of figures upwards of 200-300k to bring teams to MT. You can apologize once you get your answer. I won’t hold my breath though. Also you’re using a start up FCS program in Dixie State as your measuring stick and baseline. That alone if extremely flawed. They are desperate for anyone to pay and play them so 80k, 60k, 40k is fine by them but is far from typical of legit FCS teams going somewhere to play.

Just saw that 13 different FBS teams made 1 million to 1.7 million for guarantees in one weekend last year. Yes that’s FBS but should give you a better feel for the $ being spent in football scheduling.

175,000,000 in guarantees in FBS for 275 match ups. That’s 636k average per game. I quoted 300k for FCS match ups which is half that amount. I bet I’m closer than you think. Hell Liberty paid Old Dominoln 1.32 million for its first ever FBS game last year.





UPDATE: just found this article from when Idaho was moving to FCS:

FCS teams typically get around half the payout that FBS schools net for guarantee games, something UI is figuring into future revenue projections. For the time being, though, they’ve run into little resistance from schools in Power 5 conferences.

Spear says Penn State will honor its contract to pay Idaho $1.45 million for a game in 2019. Florida will pay $1.2 million for a 2018 game. And Indiana will dish out $1.2 million in 2021 and $1.3 million in ’22 to have the Vandals play in Bloomington.

LSU is the only big-name school that balked at paying Idaho a full FBS payout. It wanted to cut UI’s fee for a 2020 game, slated at $1.4 million, by more than half, Spear says.

The Vandals declined and the game was canceled. Instead, Idaho will play at Washington State in ’20 for $550,000.



Interesting, it says FCS gets about half of what FBS gets (exactly what I stated above before even finding this article). And that avg FBS match up is 636k. So tell me what is half of that, or hell we can even go 1/3 of that if you want. Not so crazy now am I? I’m sure you’ll apologize right away

[iaafan]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

No. The Griz get three home games for $260,000 AND A RETURN TRIP TO DIXIE. They don’t get three home games for $260,000. I can’t spell it out any plainer. The trip to Dixie will cost some of the $260,000. The Griz didn’t get as good of a deal as MSU or several of the other teams listed. (See Hawks86 list)

But nice straw man argument there.

[RickRund]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

No. The Griz get three home games for $260,000 AND A RETURN TRIP TO DIXIE. They don’t get three home games for $260,000. I can’t spell it out any plainer. The trip to Dixie will cost some of the $260,000. The Griz didn’t get as good of a deal as MSU or several of the other teams listed. (See Hawks86 list)

But nice straw man argument there.

If the griz hurry up they can afford to pay them $21000 and change!!!

[grizgirl]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

Please, please, please! stop posting here. You’re making all Griz fans look stupid by association. It may be a money-making venture for us, but we still didn’t get anywhere near as good of a deal as MSU, Davis, Weber, or SUU. Compared to those schools we way overpaid for these games. We’ll make money, but not as much as we could have, which makes this a loser deal. Someone (Haslam?) obviously didn’t do their due diligence when making this deal.

[allcat]

I have a dollar and thirty eight cents in my pocket. How many coins are there. Griz fans usually guess 200 or more. They are not really good at math.

[Cataholic]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

You are a real idiot. A typical guarantee is nowhere near $300,000 for an FCS game. Did you even read the arrival quoted??? Illinois State is guaranteeing $85,000 to Dixie. Weber is guaranteeing $80,000. MSU is guaranteeing $80,000. Weber is guaranteeing $60,000. The only schools with strange bad deals are UM and SDSU. Here is the article again:

https://fbschedules.com/dixie-state-byu ... schedules/

And maybe show one example of a $300,000 guarantee for an FCS visitor before calling it a “typical” number...

You asked for 1.....I know for a fact NDSU paid Charleston Southern 300k to come to Fargo. This stuff isn’t published and easy to find. Ask anyone in the know at MSU, I promise you will find lots of figures upwards of 200-300k to bring teams to MT. You can apologize once you get your answer. I won’t hold my breath though. Also you’re using a start up FCS program in Dixie State as your measuring stick and baseline. That alone if extremely flawed. They are desperate for anyone to pay and play them so 80k, 60k, 40k is fine by them but is far from typical of legit FCS teams going somewhere to play.

Just saw that 13 different FBS teams made 1 million to 1.7 million for guarantees in one weekend last year. Yes that’s FBS but should give you a better feel for the $ being spent in football scheduling.

175,000,000 in guarantees in FBS for 275 match ups. That’s 636k average per game. I quoted 300k for FCS match ups which is half that amount. I bet I’m closer than you think. Hell Liberty paid Old Dominoln 1.32 million for its first ever FBS game last year.





UPDATE: just found this article from when Idaho was moving to FCS:

FCS teams typically get around half the payout that FBS schools net for guarantee games, something UI is figuring into future revenue projections. For the time being, though, they’ve run into little resistance from schools in Power 5 conferences.

Spear says Penn State will honor its contract to pay Idaho $1.45 million for a game in 2019. Florida will pay $1.2 million for a 2018 game. And Indiana will dish out $1.2 million in 2021 and $1.3 million in ’22 to have the Vandals play in Bloomington.

LSU is the only big-name school that balked at paying Idaho a full FBS payout. It wanted to cut UI’s fee for a 2020 game, slated at $1.4 million, by more than half, Spear says.

The Vandals declined and the game was canceled. Instead, Idaho will play at Washington State in ’20 for $550,000.



Interesting, it says FCS gets about half of what FBS gets (exactly what I stated above before even finding this article). And that avg FBS match up is 636k. So tell me what is half of that, or hell we can even go 1/3 of that if you want. Not so crazy now am I? I’m sure you’ll apologize right away

So you want to use one game between NDSU and Charleston as the “typical” payout for FCS games? A couple of factors go into the higher payout: 1. The distance of a couple thousand miles for travel; 2. NDSU is not an opponent many FCS teams want to play as it is a high probability loss in Fargo - hence the higher payout; 3.
Charleston has multiple $500,000 options against FBS teams within 200 miles of the school. A $300,000 payout to play at an FCS location is not the norm. This was an anomaly.

Also, the Idaho article you quoted has NOTHING to do with FCS payouts. It is focused on what FBS Idaho was accustomed to receive for playing at an FBS school versus what FCS Idaho will receive for playing at an FBS school. There is no discussion on what FCS teams guarantee to another FCS team to come play at their home. Any comments you made on FCS schools paying out are pure conjecture.

Come on GrizAgenda, how about using facts for once? You can’t even validate the NDSU payout...

[CelticCat]

MSU got $300k to go to SMU the same year they paid $200k to Monmouth.

[Grizaddict]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

You are a real idiot. A typical guarantee is nowhere near $300,000 for an FCS game. Did you even read the arrival quoted??? Illinois State is guaranteeing $85,000 to Dixie. Weber is guaranteeing $80,000. MSU is guaranteeing $80,000. Weber is guaranteeing $60,000. The only schools with strange bad deals are UM and SDSU. Here is the article again:

https://fbschedules.com/dixie-state-byu ... schedules/

And maybe show one example of a $300,000 guarantee for an FCS visitor before calling it a “typical” number...

You asked for 1.....I know for a fact NDSU paid Charleston Southern 300k to come to Fargo. This stuff isn’t published and easy to find. Ask anyone in the know at MSU, I promise you will find lots of figures upwards of 200-300k to bring teams to MT. You can apologize once you get your answer. I won’t hold my breath though. Also you’re using a start up FCS program in Dixie State as your measuring stick and baseline. That alone if extremely flawed. They are desperate for anyone to pay and play them so 80k, 60k, 40k is fine by them but is far from typical of legit FCS teams going somewhere to play.

Just saw that 13 different FBS teams made 1 million to 1.7 million for guarantees in one weekend last year. Yes that’s FBS but should give you a better feel for the $ being spent in football scheduling.

175,000,000 in guarantees in FBS for 275 match ups. That’s 636k average per game. I quoted 300k for FCS match ups which is half that amount. I bet I’m closer than you think. Hell Liberty paid Old Dominoln 1.32 million for its first ever FBS game last year.





UPDATE: just found this article from when Idaho was moving to FCS:

FCS teams typically get around half the payout that FBS schools net for guarantee games, something UI is figuring into future revenue projections. For the time being, though, they’ve run into little resistance from schools in Power 5 conferences.

Spear says Penn State will honor its contract to pay Idaho $1.45 million for a game in 2019. Florida will pay $1.2 million for a 2018 game. And Indiana will dish out $1.2 million in 2021 and $1.3 million in ’22 to have the Vandals play in Bloomington.

LSU is the only big-name school that balked at paying Idaho a full FBS payout. It wanted to cut UI’s fee for a 2020 game, slated at $1.4 million, by more than half, Spear says.

The Vandals declined and the game was canceled. Instead, Idaho will play at Washington State in ’20 for $550,000.



Interesting, it says FCS gets about half of what FBS gets (exactly what I stated above before even finding this article). And that avg FBS match up is 636k. So tell me what is half of that, or hell we can even go 1/3 of that if you want. Not so crazy now am I? I’m sure you’ll apologize right away

So you want to use one game between NDSU and Charleston as the “typical” payout for FCS games? A couple of factors go into the higher payout: 1. The distance of a couple thousand miles for travel; 2. NDSU is not an opponent many FCS teams want to play as it is a high probability loss in Fargo - hence the higher payout; 3.
Charleston has multiple $500,000 options against FBS teams within 200 miles of the school. A $300,000 payout to play at an FCS location is not the norm. This was an anomaly.

Also, the Idaho article you quoted has NOTHING to do with FCS payouts. It is focused on what FBS Idaho was accustomed to receive for playing at an FBS school versus what FCS Idaho will receive for playing at an FBS school. There is no discussion on what FCS teams guarantee to another FCS team to come play at their home. Any comments you made on FCS schools paying out are pure conjecture.

Come on GrizAgenda, how about using facts for once? You can’t even validate the NDSU payout...

So so so awesome. Was that your apology? Thanks for making my day. I just absolutely bitch slapped you here giving you everything you said I couldn’t and you still back pedal an try to throw out a bunch of BS so you don’t looklik such an ass hat. So rich!

- you asked for ONE example of a 300k FCS payout and I gave it to you, and that was years ago, way more now. Your response = backpedal

- I found out the avg FBS guarantee is 637k and an article that blatantly states FCS guarantees are half of that
Your response = backpedal

Why don’t you find some factual info and provide it herrr as opposed to your idiotic opinions that you make up our of thin air. You do that with a lot of posters here. I see a lot of posters here call you out. Funny that it’s not just me.

[Cataholic]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

You are a real idiot. A typical guarantee is nowhere near $300,000 for an FCS game. Did you even read the arrival quoted??? Illinois State is guaranteeing $85,000 to Dixie. Weber is guaranteeing $80,000. MSU is guaranteeing $80,000. Weber is guaranteeing $60,000. The only schools with strange bad deals are UM and SDSU. Here is the article again:

https://fbschedules.com/dixie-state-byu ... schedules/

And maybe show one example of a $300,000 guarantee for an FCS visitor before calling it a “typical” number...

You asked for 1.....I know for a fact NDSU paid Charleston Southern 300k to come to Fargo. This stuff isn’t published and easy to find. Ask anyone in the know at MSU, I promise you will find lots of figures upwards of 200-300k to bring teams to MT. You can apologize once you get your answer. I won’t hold my breath though. Also you’re using a start up FCS program in Dixie State as your measuring stick and baseline. That alone if extremely flawed. They are desperate for anyone to pay and play them so 80k, 60k, 40k is fine by them but is far from typical of legit FCS teams going somewhere to play.

Just saw that 13 different FBS teams made 1 million to 1.7 million for guarantees in one weekend last year. Yes that’s FBS but should give you a better feel for the $ being spent in football scheduling.

175,000,000 in guarantees in FBS for 275 match ups. That’s 636k average per game. I quoted 300k for FCS match ups which is half that amount. I bet I’m closer than you think. Hell Liberty paid Old Dominoln 1.32 million for its first ever FBS game last year.





UPDATE: just found this article from when Idaho was moving to FCS:

FCS teams typically get around half the payout that FBS schools net for guarantee games, something UI is figuring into future revenue projections. For the time being, though, they’ve run into little resistance from schools in Power 5 conferences.

Spear says Penn State will honor its contract to pay Idaho $1.45 million for a game in 2019. Florida will pay $1.2 million for a 2018 game. And Indiana will dish out $1.2 million in 2021 and $1.3 million in ’22 to have the Vandals play in Bloomington.

LSU is the only big-name school that balked at paying Idaho a full FBS payout. It wanted to cut UI’s fee for a 2020 game, slated at $1.4 million, by more than half, Spear says.

The Vandals declined and the game was canceled. Instead, Idaho will play at Washington State in ’20 for $550,000.



Interesting, it says FCS gets about half of what FBS gets (exactly what I stated above before even finding this article). And that avg FBS match up is 636k. So tell me what is half of that, or hell we can even go 1/3 of that if you want. Not so crazy now am I? I’m sure you’ll apologize right away

So you want to use one game between NDSU and Charleston as the “typical” payout for FCS games? A couple of factors go into the higher payout: 1. The distance of a couple thousand miles for travel; 2. NDSU is not an opponent many FCS teams want to play as it is a high probability loss in Fargo - hence the higher payout; 3.
Charleston has multiple $500,000 options against FBS teams within 200 miles of the school. A $300,000 payout to play at an FCS location is not the norm. This was an anomaly.

Also, the Idaho article you quoted has NOTHING to do with FCS payouts. It is focused on what FBS Idaho was accustomed to receive for playing at an FBS school versus what FCS Idaho will receive for playing at an FBS school. There is no discussion on what FCS teams guarantee to another FCS team to come play at their home. Any comments you made on FCS schools paying out are pure conjecture.

Come on GrizAgenda, how about using facts for once? You can’t even validate the NDSU payout...

So so so awesome. Was that your apology? Thanks for making my day. I just absolutely bitch slapped you here giving you everything you said I couldn’t and you still back pedal an try to throw out a bunch of BS so you don’t looklik such an ass hat. So rich!

- you asked for ONE example of a 300k FCS payout and I gave it to you, and that was years ago, way more now. Your response = backpedal

- I found out the avg FBS guarantee is 637k and an article that blatantly states FCS guarantees are half of that
Your response = backpedal

Why don’t you find some factual info and provide it herrr as opposed to your idiotic opinions that you make up our of thin air. You do that with a lot of posters here. I see a lot of posters here call you out. Funny that it’s not just me.

Huh??? Did you read any of what was posted? Are you really that challenged in reading comprehension? I can’t even explain your last response??? Are you drunk right now?

And for posters calling people out, just look at this thread... Another Griz fan actually told you to shut up and that you make Griz fans look bad. Come on HookedonGriz, you should just stay on egriz.

By the way, I thought you had my posts on ignore?

[bobcatbob]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

You are a real idiot. A typical guarantee is nowhere near $300,000 for an FCS game. Did you even read the arrival quoted??? Illinois State is guaranteeing $85,000 to Dixie. Weber is guaranteeing $80,000. MSU is guaranteeing $80,000. Weber is guaranteeing $60,000. The only schools with strange bad deals are UM and SDSU. Here is the article again:

https://fbschedules.com/dixie-state-byu ... schedules/

And maybe show one example of a $300,000 guarantee for an FCS visitor before calling it a “typical” number...

You asked for 1.....I know for a fact NDSU paid Charleston Southern 300k to come to Fargo. This stuff isn’t published and easy to find. Ask anyone in the know at MSU, I promise you will find lots of figures upwards of 200-300k to bring teams to MT. You can apologize once you get your answer. I won’t hold my breath though. Also you’re using a start up FCS program in Dixie State as your measuring stick and baseline. That alone if extremely flawed. They are desperate for anyone to pay and play them so 80k, 60k, 40k is fine by them but is far from typical of legit FCS teams going somewhere to play.

Just saw that 13 different FBS teams made 1 million to 1.7 million for guarantees in one weekend last year. Yes that’s FBS but should give you a better feel for the $ being spent in football scheduling.

175,000,000 in guarantees in FBS for 275 match ups. That’s 636k average per game. I quoted 300k for FCS match ups which is half that amount. I bet I’m closer than you think. Hell Liberty paid Old Dominoln 1.32 million for its first ever FBS game last year.





UPDATE: just found this article from when Idaho was moving to FCS:

FCS teams typically get around half the payout that FBS schools net for guarantee games, something UI is figuring into future revenue projections. For the time being, though, they’ve run into little resistance from schools in Power 5 conferences.

Spear says Penn State will honor its contract to pay Idaho $1.45 million for a game in 2019. Florida will pay $1.2 million for a 2018 game. And Indiana will dish out $1.2 million in 2021 and $1.3 million in ’22 to have the Vandals play in Bloomington.

LSU is the only big-name school that balked at paying Idaho a full FBS payout. It wanted to cut UI’s fee for a 2020 game, slated at $1.4 million, by more than half, Spear says.

The Vandals declined and the game was canceled. Instead, Idaho will play at Washington State in ’20 for $550,000.



Interesting, it says FCS gets about half of what FBS gets (exactly what I stated above before even finding this article). And that avg FBS match up is 636k. So tell me what is half of that, or hell we can even go 1/3 of that if you want. Not so crazy now am I? I’m sure you’ll apologize right away

So you want to use one game between NDSU and Charleston as the “typical” payout for FCS games? A couple of factors go into the higher payout: 1. The distance of a couple thousand miles for travel; 2. NDSU is not an opponent many FCS teams want to play as it is a high probability loss in Fargo - hence the higher payout; 3.
Charleston has multiple $500,000 options against FBS teams within 200 miles of the school. A $300,000 payout to play at an FCS location is not the norm. This was an anomaly.

Also, the Idaho article you quoted has NOTHING to do with FCS payouts. It is focused on what FBS Idaho was accustomed to receive for playing at an FBS school versus what FCS Idaho will receive for playing at an FBS school. There is no discussion on what FCS teams guarantee to another FCS team to come play at their home. Any comments you made on FCS schools paying out are pure conjecture.

Come on GrizAgenda, how about using facts for once? You can’t even validate the NDSU payout...

So so so awesome. Was that your apology? Thanks for making my day. I just absolutely bitch slapped you here giving you everything you said I couldn’t and you still back pedal an try to throw out a bunch of BS so you don’t looklik such an ass hat. So rich!

- you asked for ONE example of a 300k FCS payout and I gave it to you, and that was years ago, way more now. Your response = backpedal

- I found out the avg FBS guarantee is 637k and an article that blatantly states FCS guarantees are half of that
Your response = backpedal

Why don’t you find some factual info and provide it herrr as opposed to your idiotic opinions that you make up our of thin air. You do that with a lot of posters here. I see a lot of posters here call you out. Funny that it’s not just me.

Huh??? Did you read any of what was posted? Are you really that challenged in reading comprehension? I can’t even explain your last response??? Are you drunk right now?

And for posters calling people out, just look at this thread... Another Griz fan actually told you to shut up and that you make Griz fans look bad. Come on HookedonGriz, you should just stay on egriz.

By the way, I thought you had my posts on ignore?

Hooked is not to bright for sure. He is constantly making a fool of himself on here. He does the same thing on EGRIZ. He must be a UM grad!

[Hawks86]

That $300,000 the Bison paid was their highest ever. So, no it's not typical, or average.

[Grizaddict]

That $300,000 the Bison paid was their highest ever. So, no it's not typical, or average.

Source or proof please. I can guarantee the 80k to Dixie St way below avg, yet that’s what some are using as a baseline.

[Grizaddict]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

You are a real idiot. A typical guarantee is nowhere near $300,000 for an FCS game. Did you even read the arrival quoted??? Illinois State is guaranteeing $85,000 to Dixie. Weber is guaranteeing $80,000. MSU is guaranteeing $80,000. Weber is guaranteeing $60,000. The only schools with strange bad deals are UM and SDSU. Here is the article again:

https://fbschedules.com/dixie-state-byu ... schedules/

And maybe show one example of a $300,000 guarantee for an FCS visitor before calling it a “typical” number...

You asked for 1.....I know for a fact NDSU paid Charleston Southern 300k to come to Fargo. This stuff isn’t published and easy to find. Ask anyone in the know at MSU, I promise you will find lots of figures upwards of 200-300k to bring teams to MT. You can apologize once you get your answer. I won’t hold my breath though. Also you’re using a start up FCS program in Dixie State as your measuring stick and baseline. That alone if extremely flawed. They are desperate for anyone to pay and play them so 80k, 60k, 40k is fine by them but is far from typical of legit FCS teams going somewhere to play.

Just saw that 13 different FBS teams made 1 million to 1.7 million for guarantees in one weekend last year. Yes that’s FBS but should give you a better feel for the $ being spent in football scheduling.

175,000,000 in guarantees in FBS for 275 match ups. That’s 636k average per game. I quoted 300k for FCS match ups which is half that amount. I bet I’m closer than you think. Hell Liberty paid Old Dominoln 1.32 million for its first ever FBS game last year.





UPDATE: just found this article from when Idaho was moving to FCS:

FCS teams typically get around half the payout that FBS schools net for guarantee games, something UI is figuring into future revenue projections. For the time being, though, they’ve run into little resistance from schools in Power 5 conferences.

Spear says Penn State will honor its contract to pay Idaho $1.45 million for a game in 2019. Florida will pay $1.2 million for a 2018 game. And Indiana will dish out $1.2 million in 2021 and $1.3 million in ’22 to have the Vandals play in Bloomington.

LSU is the only big-name school that balked at paying Idaho a full FBS payout. It wanted to cut UI’s fee for a 2020 game, slated at $1.4 million, by more than half, Spear says.

The Vandals declined and the game was canceled. Instead, Idaho will play at Washington State in ’20 for $550,000.



Interesting, it says FCS gets about half of what FBS gets (exactly what I stated above before even finding this article). And that avg FBS match up is 636k. So tell me what is half of that, or hell we can even go 1/3 of that if you want. Not so crazy now am I? I’m sure you’ll apologize right away

So you want to use one game between NDSU and Charleston as the “typical” payout for FCS games? A couple of factors go into the higher payout: 1. The distance of a couple thousand miles for travel; 2. NDSU is not an opponent many FCS teams want to play as it is a high probability loss in Fargo - hence the higher payout; 3.
Charleston has multiple $500,000 options against FBS teams within 200 miles of the school. A $300,000 payout to play at an FCS location is not the norm. This was an anomaly.

Also, the Idaho article you quoted has NOTHING to do with FCS payouts. It is focused on what FBS Idaho was accustomed to receive for playing at an FBS school versus what FCS Idaho will receive for playing at an FBS school. There is no discussion on what FCS teams guarantee to another FCS team to come play at their home. Any comments you made on FCS schools paying out are pure conjecture.

Come on GrizAgenda, how about using facts for once? You can’t even validate the NDSU payout...

So so so awesome. Was that your apology? Thanks for making my day. I just absolutely bitch slapped you here giving you everything you said I couldn’t and you still back pedal an try to throw out a bunch of BS so you don’t looklik such an ass hat. So rich!

- you asked for ONE example of a 300k FCS payout and I gave it to you, and that was years ago, way more now. Your response = backpedal

- I found out the avg FBS guarantee is 637k and an article that blatantly states FCS guarantees are half of that
Your response = backpedal

Why don’t you find some factual info and provide it herrr as opposed to your idiotic opinions that you make up our of thin air. You do that with a lot of posters here. I see a lot of posters here call you out. Funny that it’s not just me.

Huh??? Did you read any of what was posted? Are you really that challenged in reading comprehension? I can’t even explain your last response??? Are you drunk right now?

And for posters calling people out, just look at this thread... Another Griz fan actually told you to shut up and that you make Griz fans look bad. Come on HookedonGriz, you should just stay on egriz.

By the way, I thought you had my posts on ignore?

Hooked is not to bright for sure. He is constantly making a fool of himself on here. He does the same thing on EGRIZ. He must be a UM grad!

I’ve let the HOG comparison go on for a while. Sorry to disappoint but two different people. Have the mods check the emails if need be. I’ve got him by a lot of years. Cataholic please provide any factual info that you can to refute my claim of FCS payouts being 200-300k. You haven’t provided one fact or one proof source and I already have. Let’s see what you got and quit backpedaling. You’re like the AOC of this board.

[Cataholic]

However it is sliced the Griz get 3 home games for 260k total. That’s 87k per game. That’s cheap as hell in the world of bringing in non Conf games. SDSU paying 200k for one game. I’ll take 260k for 3 all day long.

The Griz get 3 home games for $260,000 AND for going to St. George to play Dixie. I hope you’re not an accountant.

You obviously have zero idea what it takes $ wise to bring in a typical FCS team for non a non conference game. I mean you guys bought out NDSU for 100k and then paid Monmouth 200k to come to bozeman, and that was years ago. A typical guarantee anymore is 300k. the Griz get 3 home games for 260k. That is cheap as hell and that’s not even debatable. Do you have any idea how much money they make for a home game? And now those proceeds won’t even be chewed up by a 200k-300k guarantee. It’s not rocket science.

You are a real idiot. A typical guarantee is nowhere near $300,000 for an FCS game. Did you even read the arrival quoted??? Illinois State is guaranteeing $85,000 to Dixie. Weber is guaranteeing $80,000. MSU is guaranteeing $80,000. Weber is guaranteeing $60,000. The only schools with strange bad deals are UM and SDSU. Here is the article again:

https://fbschedules.com/dixie-state-byu ... schedules/

And maybe show one example of a $300,000 guarantee for an FCS visitor before calling it a “typical” number...

You asked for 1.....I know for a fact NDSU paid Charleston Southern 300k to come to Fargo. This stuff isn’t published and easy to find. Ask anyone in the know at MSU, I promise you will find lots of figures upwards of 200-300k to bring teams to MT. You can apologize once you get your answer. I won’t hold my breath though. Also you’re using a start up FCS program in Dixie State as your measuring stick and baseline. That alone if extremely flawed. They are desperate for anyone to pay and play them so 80k, 60k, 40k is fine by them but is far from typical of legit FCS teams going somewhere to play.

Just saw that 13 different FBS teams made 1 million to 1.7 million for guarantees in one weekend last year. Yes that’s FBS but should give you a better feel for the $ being spent in football scheduling.

175,000,000 in guarantees in FBS for 275 match ups. That’s 636k average per game. I quoted 300k for FCS match ups which is half that amount. I bet I’m closer than you think. Hell Liberty paid Old Dominoln 1.32 million for its first ever FBS game last year.





UPDATE: just found this article from when Idaho was moving to FCS:

FCS teams typically get around half the payout that FBS schools net for guarantee games, something UI is figuring into future revenue projections. For the time being, though, they’ve run into little resistance from schools in Power 5 conferences.

Spear says Penn State will honor its contract to pay Idaho $1.45 million for a game in 2019. Florida will pay $1.2 million for a 2018 game. And Indiana will dish out $1.2 million in 2021 and $1.3 million in ’22 to have the Vandals play in Bloomington.

LSU is the only big-name school that balked at paying Idaho a full FBS payout. It wanted to cut UI’s fee for a 2020 game, slated at $1.4 million, by more than half, Spear says.

The Vandals declined and the game was canceled. Instead, Idaho will play at Washington State in ’20 for $550,000.



Interesting, it says FCS gets about half of what FBS gets (exactly what I stated above before even finding this article). And that avg FBS match up is 636k. So tell me what is half of that, or hell we can even go 1/3 of that if you want. Not so crazy now am I? I’m sure you’ll apologize right away

So you want to use one game between NDSU and Charleston as the “typical” payout for FCS games? A couple of factors go into the higher payout: 1. The distance of a couple thousand miles for travel; 2. NDSU is not an opponent many FCS teams want to play as it is a high probability loss in Fargo - hence the higher payout; 3.
Charleston has multiple $500,000 options against FBS teams within 200 miles of the school. A $300,000 payout to play at an FCS location is not the norm. This was an anomaly.

Also, the Idaho article you quoted has NOTHING to do with FCS payouts. It is focused on what FBS Idaho was accustomed to receive for playing at an FBS school versus what FCS Idaho will receive for playing at an FBS school. There is no discussion on what FCS teams guarantee to another FCS team to come play at their home. Any comments you made on FCS schools paying out are pure conjecture.

Come on GrizAgenda, how about using facts for once? You can’t even validate the NDSU payout...

So so so awesome. Was that your apology? Thanks for making my day. I just absolutely bitch slapped you here giving you everything you said I couldn’t and you still back pedal an try to throw out a bunch of BS so you don’t looklik such an ass hat. So rich!

- you asked for ONE example of a 300k FCS payout and I gave it to you, and that was years ago, way more now. Your response = backpedal

- I found out the avg FBS guarantee is 637k and an article that blatantly states FCS guarantees are half of that
Your response = backpedal

Why don’t you find some factual info and provide it herrr as opposed to your idiotic opinions that you make up our of thin air. You do that with a lot of posters here. I see a lot of posters here call you out. Funny that it’s not just me.

Huh??? Did you read any of what was posted? Are you really that challenged in reading comprehension? I can’t even explain your last response??? Are you drunk right now?

And for posters calling people out, just look at this thread... Another Griz fan actually told you to shut up and that you make Griz fans look bad. Come on HookedonGriz, you should just stay on egriz.

By the way, I thought you had my posts on ignore?

Hooked is not to bright for sure. He is constantly making a fool of himself on here. He does the same thing on EGRIZ. He must be a UM grad!

I’ve let the HOG comparison go on for a while. Sorry to disappoint but two different people. Have the mods check the emails if need be. I’ve got him by a lot of years. Cataholic please provide any factual info that you can to refute my claim of FCS payouts being 200-300k. You haven’t provided one fact or one proof source and I already have. Let’s see what you got and quit backpedaling. You’re like the AOC of this board.

Here is the initial article AGAIN: https://fbschedules.com/dixie-state-byu ... schedules/

Take some time and read it, SLOWLY. You will see that the only comparable payout by UM was SDSU. Every FCS team is way below what UM is paying.

And you have not provided any proof. The only article you cited talks about FBS guarantees to FCS. There is no discussion of FCS payouts to FCS. NOTHING. Can you understand?

If you are not Hooked, you are definitely Grindabox. Your arguments at egriz are basically the same.

[Hawks86]

That $300,000 the Bison paid was their highest ever. So, no it's not typical, or average.

Source or proof please. I can guarantee the 80k to Dixie St way below avg, yet that’s what some are using as a baseline.

Well, I can also guarantee my statement.