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Re: Gregorak?
Good take from Gus Tootell here in this week's Big Sky Breakdown on Gregorak's departure
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Ryan Tootell – 24:17
Andrew Houghton – 53:30
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Kendal Manuel – 1:40
Travis DeCuire – 8:22
Shannon Schweyen – 16:53
Ryan Tootell – 24:17
Andrew Houghton – 53:30
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Re: Gregorak?
This does not give any new insight into why Gregorak is no longer the DC. It does point out that Ty's departure certainly did not catch Choate by surprise and the Ioane hire was a done deal at the time Gregorak's departure went public.Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:37 pmGood take from Gus Tootell here in this week's Big Sky Breakdown on Gregorak's departure
BIG SKY BREAKDOWN TIMES
Kendal Manuel – 1:40
Travis DeCuire – 8:22
Shannon Schweyen – 16:53
Ryan Tootell – 24:17
Andrew Houghton – 53:30
I also found it interesting that the defensive scheme the Cats have used for the last three years is Choate's (from Chris Petersen) and not Gregorak's.
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Re: Gregorak?
Its his team....so the assistants need to be the one to follow suit. Challenging the head coach can be constructive but can also be a huge detriment.
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I see nothing wrong with it being about egos. When two people aren't rowing the same direction, you can't keep trying to make it work. Doesn't mean Ty's direction was wrong, it just means it wasn't 100% in sync with Choate. It's Choate's program, and the reality is that everybody needs to adapt to his vision, not him to theirs.
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Moved this discussion from the Montana Recruits thread. MSU's defense did a relatively good job of holding opposing offenses under their average during Ty's tenure, specifically in the points scored category. But in all honesty, the best performance was in 2016 against the Griz. They were the #2 offense in 2016 in the Big Sky and they struggled all day other than first possession. Held them to 305 yards and 23 points when they averaged 482 yards and 40 points per game that season. As far as other offenses, Idaho State always struggled to score points against Gregorak-coached MSU defenses. Never felt he called great games against EWU for those three years. Did fairly well against all run-heavy teams. Got to face Case Cookus in 2017 (he didn't start the game in 2016) and those results were also mixed (gave up 37 points and a boatload of yards). So yeah....you could say Ty's crowning moments as MSU's defensive coordinator were each time he faced UM.
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Works for me.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:25 pmSo yeah....you could say Ty's crowning moments as MSU's defensive coordinator were each time he faced UM.
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I'd also posit that the best part of Gregorak as DC was (in most cases) his halftime adjustments. His defenses seemed to play pretty vanilla and sometimes gave up quite a bit in the first quarter or half, but after halftime seemed to really shine and shut opponents down.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:25 pmMoved this discussion from the Montana Recruits thread. MSU's defense did a relatively good job of holding opposing offenses under their average during Ty's tenure, specifically in the points scored category. But in all honesty, the best performance was in 2016 against the Griz. They were the #2 offense in 2016 in the Big Sky and they struggled all day other than first possession. Held them to 305 yards and 23 points when they averaged 482 yards and 40 points per game that season. As far as other offenses, Idaho State always struggled to score points against Gregorak-coached MSU defenses. Never felt he called great games against EWU for those three years. Did fairly well against all run-heavy teams. Got to face Case Cookus in 2017 (he didn't start the game in 2016) and those results were also mixed (gave up 37 points and a boatload of yards). So yeah....you could say Ty's crowning moments as MSU's defensive coordinator were each time he faced UM.
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How much of that was Choate's influence though. UW seems to do the same thing a lot, first half is pretty base and second half has lot more adjustments and pressure. I have felt that is was a gameplanning strategy.kmax wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:35 pmI'd also posit that the best part of Gregorak as DC was (in most cases) his halftime adjustments. His defenses seemed to play pretty vanilla and sometimes gave up quite a bit in the first quarter or half, but after halftime seemed to really shine and shut opponents down.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:25 pmMoved this discussion from the Montana Recruits thread. MSU's defense did a relatively good job of holding opposing offenses under their average during Ty's tenure, specifically in the points scored category. But in all honesty, the best performance was in 2016 against the Griz. They were the #2 offense in 2016 in the Big Sky and they struggled all day other than first possession. Held them to 305 yards and 23 points when they averaged 482 yards and 40 points per game that season. As far as other offenses, Idaho State always struggled to score points against Gregorak-coached MSU defenses. Never felt he called great games against EWU for those three years. Did fairly well against all run-heavy teams. Got to face Case Cookus in 2017 (he didn't start the game in 2016) and those results were also mixed (gave up 37 points and a boatload of yards). So yeah....you could say Ty's crowning moments as MSU's defensive coordinator were each time he faced UM.
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"What is this 'halftime adjustments' you speak of?" -Rob Ashkmax wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:35 pmI'd also posit that the best part of Gregorak as DC was (in most cases) his halftime adjustments. His defenses seemed to play pretty vanilla and sometimes gave up quite a bit in the first quarter or half, but after halftime seemed to really shine and shut opponents down.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:25 pmMoved this discussion from the Montana Recruits thread. MSU's defense did a relatively good job of holding opposing offenses under their average during Ty's tenure, specifically in the points scored category. But in all honesty, the best performance was in 2016 against the Griz. They were the #2 offense in 2016 in the Big Sky and they struggled all day other than first possession. Held them to 305 yards and 23 points when they averaged 482 yards and 40 points per game that season. As far as other offenses, Idaho State always struggled to score points against Gregorak-coached MSU defenses. Never felt he called great games against EWU for those three years. Did fairly well against all run-heavy teams. Got to face Case Cookus in 2017 (he didn't start the game in 2016) and those results were also mixed (gave up 37 points and a boatload of yards). So yeah....you could say Ty's crowning moments as MSU's defensive coordinator were each time he faced UM.
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You also have to factor in how slow our offense would start out in the first half of games. I think it is a combo of a lot of things. I like Gregorak and he was a definite upgrade, but maybe coach Choate is seeing a higher ceiling with a new coach at the helm (I am just guessing as I have no clue what went on). Sometimes keeping things fresh also stimulates player growth as well.cats2506 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:45 pmHow much of that was Choate's influence though. UW seems to do the same thing a lot, first half is pretty base and second half has lot more adjustments and pressure. I have felt that is was a gameplanning strategy.kmax wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:35 pmI'd also posit that the best part of Gregorak as DC was (in most cases) his halftime adjustments. His defenses seemed to play pretty vanilla and sometimes gave up quite a bit in the first quarter or half, but after halftime seemed to really shine and shut opponents down.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:25 pmMoved this discussion from the Montana Recruits thread. MSU's defense did a relatively good job of holding opposing offenses under their average during Ty's tenure, specifically in the points scored category. But in all honesty, the best performance was in 2016 against the Griz. They were the #2 offense in 2016 in the Big Sky and they struggled all day other than first possession. Held them to 305 yards and 23 points when they averaged 482 yards and 40 points per game that season. As far as other offenses, Idaho State always struggled to score points against Gregorak-coached MSU defenses. Never felt he called great games against EWU for those three years. Did fairly well against all run-heavy teams. Got to face Case Cookus in 2017 (he didn't start the game in 2016) and those results were also mixed (gave up 37 points and a boatload of yards). So yeah....you could say Ty's crowning moments as MSU's defensive coordinator were each time he faced UM.
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Re: Gregorak?
"Yes... Why throw away a perfectly good game plan only halfway through the game?" -Bobby HauckDaCats21 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:15 pm"What is this 'halftime adjustments' you speak of?" -Rob Ashkmax wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:35 pmI'd also posit that the best part of Gregorak as DC was (in most cases) his halftime adjustments. His defenses seemed to play pretty vanilla and sometimes gave up quite a bit in the first quarter or half, but after halftime seemed to really shine and shut opponents down.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:25 pmMoved this discussion from the Montana Recruits thread. MSU's defense did a relatively good job of holding opposing offenses under their average during Ty's tenure, specifically in the points scored category. But in all honesty, the best performance was in 2016 against the Griz. They were the #2 offense in 2016 in the Big Sky and they struggled all day other than first possession. Held them to 305 yards and 23 points when they averaged 482 yards and 40 points per game that season. As far as other offenses, Idaho State always struggled to score points against Gregorak-coached MSU defenses. Never felt he called great games against EWU for those three years. Did fairly well against all run-heavy teams. Got to face Case Cookus in 2017 (he didn't start the game in 2016) and those results were also mixed (gave up 37 points and a boatload of yards). So yeah....you could say Ty's crowning moments as MSU's defensive coordinator were each time he faced UM.
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