Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
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Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
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I think with Bryce Sterk's numbers he should be in the running.
If you agree, enter Bryce in the other slot.
Bryce Sterk, Montana State
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I think with Bryce Sterk's numbers he should be in the running.
If you agree, enter Bryce in the other slot.
Bryce Sterk, Montana State
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
Dalton Sneed.....Most turnovers for a newcomer in a year.
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
It’ll be Sneed in a landslide. It’s a fan vote. This McLaughlin guy doesn’t know he transferred to UM from a JC.
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Meaning he shouldn’t be Newcomer of the Year? What does that have to do with anything. He won the Newcomer of the Year for the Big Sky
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
Dude had more turnovers than most teams? If that makes him popular, I guess, whatever.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:30 pmMeaning he shouldn’t be Newcomer of the Year? What does that have to do with anything. He won the Newcomer of the Year for the Big Sky
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He threw 7 picks (to 22 TDs) ....the same # of picks as Troy Andersen. Are you referring to fumbles? How many did he have, like 3? I’m amazed at how many he actually held onto with the hits the OL gave up.LIBBYCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:23 pmDude had more turnovers than most teams? If that makes him popular, I guess, whatever.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:30 pmMeaning he shouldn’t be Newcomer of the Year? What does that have to do with anything. He won the Newcomer of the Year for the Big Sky
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
Sneed is a good QB. Just listen to Choate's and Gregorak's comments about him. He can play football.
I didn't vote, because he's the only candidate that I saw play this year. I doubt anyone voting has seen all, or even most, of those candidates play...and especially multiple games. So bully to whoever wins this popularity contest.
I didn't vote, because he's the only candidate that I saw play this year. I doubt anyone voting has seen all, or even most, of those candidates play...and especially multiple games. So bully to whoever wins this popularity contest.
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
I agree. I don't think very many fans are going to look at each player and then vote for who they think is best. Most of the voters will be fans of each team with a player on this list. UM has the most fans. McLaughlin is a good guy and is trying to put a spotlight on FCS football, but he should know that Sneed came to UM from Ft. Scott CC, not UNLV. He did play at UNLV, but logically you list where the player is a newcomer from or list both schools. Not the school they went to prior to the school that he was just attending.
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
It's a silly vote, but Sneed is a dang good dual threat quarterback.
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
Exactly.HelenaCat95 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:17 pmSneed is a good QB. Just listen to Choate's and Gregorak's comments about him. He can play football.
I didn't vote, because he's the only candidate that I saw play this year. I doubt anyone voting has seen all, or even most, of those candidates play...and especially multiple games. So bully to whoever wins this popularity contest.
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
SneedGrizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:39 pmHe threw 7 picks (to 22 TDs) ....the same # of picks as Troy Andersen. Are you referring to fumbles? How many did he have, like 3? I’m amazed at how many he actually held onto with the hits the OL gave up.LIBBYCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:23 pmDude had more turnovers than most teams? If that makes him popular, I guess, whatever.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:30 pmMeaning he shouldn’t be Newcomer of the Year? What does that have to do with anything. He won the Newcomer of the Year for the Big Sky
7 picks, 4-fumbles.
Rushing att. 131
Passing att. 384
Andersen
6-Picks, 2-fumbles
Rushing att. 147
Passing att.150
Based on games 1-11 as Sneed didn’t appear in playoffs.
Comparing turnovers without using carries and pass attempts isn’t taking in the whole picture.
My point was newcomer of the year shouldn’t be based on who has more fans but should be based on performance.
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Agree, which is why Sneed won the official Big Sky Newcomer of the Year, because he was damn impressive and put up damn good numbers. This Hero Sports one is more just for fun, a fan voted newcomer of the year, defensive player of the year, etc. It doesn’t have any official weight to it and is not an official FCS award.LIBBYCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:52 pmSneedGrizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:39 pmHe threw 7 picks (to 22 TDs) ....the same # of picks as Troy Andersen. Are you referring to fumbles? How many did he have, like 3? I’m amazed at how many he actually held onto with the hits the OL gave up.LIBBYCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:23 pmDude had more turnovers than most teams? If that makes him popular, I guess, whatever.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:30 pmMeaning he shouldn’t be Newcomer of the Year? What does that have to do with anything. He won the Newcomer of the Year for the Big Sky
7 picks, 4-fumbles.
Rushing att. 131
Passing att. 384
Andersen
6-Picks, 2-fumbles
Rushing att. 147
Passing att.150
Comparing turnovers without using carries and pass attempts isn’t taking in the whole picture.
My point was newcomer of the year shouldn’t be based on who has more fans but should be based on performance.
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
Wait a minute here! The stats I've seen show Andersen rushing att. 206 times and passing att. 208 timesGrizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:03 pmAgree, which is why Sneed won the official Big Sky Newcomer of the Year, because he was damn impressive and put up damn good numbers. This Hero Sports one is more just for fun, a fan voted newcomer of the year, defensive player of the year, etc. It doesn’t have any official weight to it and is not an official FCS award.LIBBYCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:52 pmSneedGrizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:39 pmHe threw 7 picks (to 22 TDs) ....the same # of picks as Troy Andersen. Are you referring to fumbles? How many did he have, like 3? I’m amazed at how many he actually held onto with the hits the OL gave up.LIBBYCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:23 pmDude had more turnovers than most teams? If that makes him popular, I guess, whatever.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:30 pmMeaning he shouldn’t be Newcomer of the Year? What does that have to do with anything. He won the Newcomer of the Year for the Big Sky
7 picks, 4-fumbles.
Rushing att. 131
Passing att. 384
Andersen
6-Picks, 2-fumbles
Rushing att. 147
Passing att.150
Comparing turnovers without using carries and pass attempts isn’t taking in the whole picture.
My point was newcomer of the year shouldn’t be based on who has more fans but should be based on performance.
Not that it really matters in this thread but we might as well get the numbers right while we're at it.
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
Nothing against Sneed, he had a good year, but I thought Sterk should’ve won the Newc. One of many mistakes in the BSC league honors. Sterk made a big difference for a team with a weak pass rush and that improvement was a significant reason why MSU made the playoffs. He was second in TFL and sacks. He did more to help his team improve than Sneed and played better relative to other players at his position than Sneed. MSU went from 5-6 to 8-5 with a playoff win. UM was 6-5 for the second year in a row.
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:54 pmNothing against Sneed, he had a good year, but I thought Sterk should’ve won the Newc. One of many mistakes in the BSC league honors. Sterk made a big difference for a team with a weak pass rush and that improvement was a significant reason why MSU made the playoffs. He was second in TFL and sacks. He did more to help his team improve than Sneed and played better relative to other players at his position than Sneed. MSU went from 5-6 to 8-5 with a playoff win. UM was 6-5 for the second year in a row.
Agreed. So go vote everybody and enter Bryce Sterk.
If everybody that agrees would go vote, Sterk would probably be in the lead.
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I'll agree with you on this one Hooked, had Sneed got injured early on in the season Missoula would have been a complete ******. He won a couple games by himself, and Sterk can't say that imo. The kid even looked great in Cat-griz before we decided to start playing.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:03 pmAgree, which is why Sneed won the official Big Sky Newcomer of the Year, because he was damn impressive and put up damn good numbers. This Hero Sports one is more just for fun, a fan voted newcomer of the year, defensive player of the year, etc. It doesn’t have any official weight to it and is not an official FCS award.LIBBYCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:52 pmSneedGrizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:39 pmHe threw 7 picks (to 22 TDs) ....the same # of picks as Troy Andersen. Are you referring to fumbles? How many did he have, like 3? I’m amazed at how many he actually held onto with the hits the OL gave up.LIBBYCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:23 pmDude had more turnovers than most teams? If that makes him popular, I guess, whatever.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:30 pmMeaning he shouldn’t be Newcomer of the Year? What does that have to do with anything. He won the Newcomer of the Year for the Big Sky
7 picks, 4-fumbles.
Rushing att. 131
Passing att. 384
Andersen
6-Picks, 2-fumbles
Rushing att. 147
Passing att.150
Comparing turnovers without using carries and pass attempts isn’t taking in the whole picture.
My point was newcomer of the year shouldn’t be based on who has more fans but should be based on performance.
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
You’re right, some turnovers are more costly than others. Sneed had two fumbles vs PSU that led to 10 points in a 2-point loss. His fumble in Cat-Griz led to the go-ahead touchdown. Those three plays had significant roles in both losses. Might’ve been 8-3 instead of 6-5.LIBBYCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:52 pmSneedGrizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:39 pmHe threw 7 picks (to 22 TDs) ....the same # of picks as Troy Andersen. Are you referring to fumbles? How many did he have, like 3? I’m amazed at how many he actually held onto with the hits the OL gave up.LIBBYCAT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:23 pmDude had more turnovers than most teams? If that makes him popular, I guess, whatever.Grizaddict wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:30 pmMeaning he shouldn’t be Newcomer of the Year? What does that have to do with anything. He won the Newcomer of the Year for the Big Sky
7 picks, 4-fumbles.
Rushing att. 131
Passing att. 384
Andersen
6-Picks, 2-fumbles
Rushing att. 147
Passing att.150
Comparing turnovers without using carries and pass attempts isn’t taking in the whole picture.
My point was newcomer of the year shouldn’t be based on who has more fans but should be based on performance.
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Re: Hero Sports Newcomer of the Year
Instead of the official stats, I looked at the espn box scores. My bad.