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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:32 pm

DriscollCat wrote:
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Was TA listed as a starting LB after spring. Last year he was just situational. A lot of arguments are he solves the LB problems. Does speed alone do that. Does he have the experience to make reads songs plays fill time
He sure made a difference when he came in at LB against SDSU.

Not that it means that he'll be able to make the right decisions throughout a whole game, but IMHO he is an instant upgrade at that spot.
Definitely an upgrade at LB. I’d say he’d be an upgrade at about six positions.


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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by utucats » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:17 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:32 pm
DriscollCat wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:59 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:41 pm
Was TA listed as a starting LB after spring. Last year he was just situational. A lot of arguments are he solves the LB problems. Does speed alone do that. Does he have the experience to make reads songs plays fill time
He sure made a difference when he came in at LB against SDSU.

Not that it means that he'll be able to make the right decisions throughout a whole game, but IMHO he is an instant upgrade at that spot.
Definitely an upgrade at LB. I’d say he’d be an upgrade at about six positions.
That is the truth. Since he is that talented, we should play him at the position that is going to have the most effect on the outcome of the game. Which one is that? :-k


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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by onceacat » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:30 pm

utucats wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:17 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:32 pm
DriscollCat wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:59 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:41 pm
Was TA listed as a starting LB after spring. Last year he was just situational. A lot of arguments are he solves the LB problems. Does speed alone do that. Does he have the experience to make reads songs plays fill time
He sure made a difference when he came in at LB against SDSU.

Not that it means that he'll be able to make the right decisions throughout a whole game, but IMHO he is an instant upgrade at that spot.
Definitely an upgrade at LB. I’d say he’d be an upgrade at about six positions.
That is the truth. Since he is that talented, we should play him at the position that is going to have the most effect on the outcome of the game. Which one is that? :-k
I agree...Troy could probably play anything from center to cornerback. And play it well.

I’m a big believer in the theory that a chain is as strong as its weakest link. Rovig has proven that he is a functional starter, on the road against a top 5 team. Running back is looking more solid with II setting in & Natee getting some action.

Linebacker has been arguably the weakest position group in every game this year.



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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by cats2506 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:17 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:06 pm
onceacat wrote:
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um QB runs for 200+ yards and griz twitter basically creams their pants. Andersen rushes for MORE yards and we have a thread arguing whether he should start or not lol.
Ummm, no. We all think he should start. Some people think he should start at QB, even though he's been somewhere between bad & mediocre throwing the ball.
Ummm...
Sneed had a passer rating of 128.4
Andersen had a rating of 137.7
Andersen/Rovig combined 165.1

Sneed had 0 receiving yards; Andersen had 32.
I wonder if Sneed could play LB? :)


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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by cats2506 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:39 pm

onceacat wrote:
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2). Not my intention to beat a dead horse, but the program is only on an upward trajectory from Choates first year, not from Rob Ash’s last year (FWIW, im glad we have Chiat-i think he’s the man, just that he hasn’t proved squat as of yet, other that we can hang in there while still losing). More importantly, in year #1, this staff proved that they will double down on bad QB play rather than admit they made a mistake. I’ll defer 100% to Choate on D, but when it comes to QB, Choate has proven to be questionable at best.
Ashes last year 5-6
wins over
DII
Sac 2-9
CP 4-7
ISU 2-9
ETSU 2-9

It was pretty bad, I think we are definitely better today, even with a converted LB at QB


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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by cats2506 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:46 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:41 pm
Was TA listed as a starting LB after spring. Last year he was just situational. A lot of arguments are he solves the LB problems. Does speed alone do that. Does he have the experience to make reads songs plays fill time
Last spring when the coaches do their tour through the towns in Eastern MT I asked Gregorak about TA and where he felt he would/should play.
I'm paraphrasing but his answer was basically that he would love to see him on defense but that he was to valuable to the team with the ball in his hands and he didn't expect to have him available much on defense.


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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by lgeorge24 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:40 pm

technoCat wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:32 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:30 pm
WrongleyAccused wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:24 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:20 pm
Our offense is one dimensional. We can beat PSU this way, but in for a rude awakening. I will not give it a rest. . . This is stupid
+1
+100. Andersen is looking good-but not any better than the guy with a full scholarship that is riding the pine. And the linebackers are looking slow. I guess that’s what happens when you play your best defensive player ahead of all the QBs you have on the bench.
Wow! Troy didn't even play that much at lb last year and he's suddenly the best player on defense?!
Yes he DID play LB last year and did we miss that he was the best at the position too???? No i don't think we did



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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by utucats » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:42 pm

lgeorge24 wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:40 pm
technoCat wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:32 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:30 pm
WrongleyAccused wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:24 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:20 pm
Our offense is one dimensional. We can beat PSU this way, but in for a rude awakening. I will not give it a rest. . . This is stupid
+1
+100. Andersen is looking good-but not any better than the guy with a full scholarship that is riding the pine. And the linebackers are looking slow. I guess that’s what happens when you play your best defensive player ahead of all the QBs you have on the bench.
Wow! Troy didn't even play that much at lb last year and he's suddenly the best player on defense?!
Yes he DID play LB last year and did we miss that he was the best at the position too???? No i don't think we did
Maybe this year but last year Mac was the best LB we had.


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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by onceacat » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:31 pm

utucats wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:42 pm
lgeorge24 wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:40 pm
technoCat wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:32 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:30 pm
WrongleyAccused wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:24 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:20 pm
Our offense is one dimensional. We can beat PSU this way, but in for a rude awakening. I will not give it a rest. . . This is stupid
+1
+100. Andersen is looking good-but not any better than the guy with a full scholarship that is riding the pine. And the linebackers are looking slow. I guess that’s what happens when you play your best defensive player ahead of all the QBs you have on the bench.
Wow! Troy didn't even play that much at lb last year and he's suddenly the best player on defense?!
Yes he DID play LB last year and did we miss that he was the best at the position too???? No i don't think we did
Maybe this year but last year Mac was the best LB we had.
Hill is probably better (IMO). And I can think of 3 or 4 other studs who would be in the running. Is it fair if I say the "best linebacker dressed today"?



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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by onceacat » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:39 pm

cats2506 wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:39 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:31 am

2). Not my intention to beat a dead horse, but the program is only on an upward trajectory from Choates first year, not from Rob Ash’s last year (FWIW, im glad we have Chiat-i think he’s the man, just that he hasn’t proved squat as of yet, other that we can hang in there while still losing). More importantly, in year #1, this staff proved that they will double down on bad QB play rather than admit they made a mistake. I’ll defer 100% to Choate on D, but when it comes to QB, Choate has proven to be questionable at best.
Ashes last year 5-6
wins over
DII
Sac 2-9
CP 4-7
ISU 2-9
ETSU 2-9

It was pretty bad, I think we are definitely better today, even with a converted LB at QB
Don't get me wrong-I think we are better with Choate. I've got the same man crush on him as everyone else. But if (when?) we get to 7-4 we will match 2014. Thats not an upward trajectory, its stemming the bleeding from 3 losing seasons in a row, 2 of which were under Choate.

But I think Choate would be the first one to tell you (he's said this in some version of post game interviews a couple of times now): You are what your record says you are. The Cats (under Choate) have a losing record. End of story."

Choate has done some great things-we are 3-1 with one of the youngest teams I've ever seen on a college football field. I wouldn't be surprised a bit if we were competing for a spot in the semis or maybe even the chipper when Troy & Co are seniors.

Until then, we are what our record says we are.



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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:09 am

BleedingBLue wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:44 pm
utucats wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:39 pm
Andersen’s first half

5-9 86 yards 1 td 0 int
12 carries 66 yds 1 td

You guys are right. Put someone else in. :roll:
Rovig threw for 200+ in the 1st half last week. And PSU isn't any better than Wagner.
According to the Massey Power Rankings:
Portland State is #230 overall and #75 FCS
Wagner is #278 overall and #95 FCS



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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:23 am

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Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:10 pm
We're sure getting what we pay for with Pluto TV!
Definitely time for an email shower on the Big Sky Conference about Pluto (the only conference) vs. ESPN3 (many conferences, including those smaller than us). I've found that my emails to the conference always get a response. It's getting to the point that I would expect this to be a recruiting issue, particularly with out-of-state parents who can now almost expect that a team will appear on ESPN3. Are they always the best productions? — no. But I watch some of the other FCS leagues this way, and most broadcasts are quite acceptable. I suspect it has to do with the local facilities and talent available.



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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:06 am

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Sacred Heart kicked the holy hell out of Wagner today...
Thanks — 41-14 — not really an upset. Sacred Heart is #64 in the FCS, and Wagner is #95 (out of 125). So Wagner is only better than 30 other FCS teams. (ref: Massey Power Ratings)



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Re: The Official-unofficial Bobcat vs PSU Gameday...

Post by Cat Grad » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:19 pm

Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:06 am
Cat Grad wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:04 pm
Sacred Heart kicked the holy hell out of Wagner today...
Thanks — 41-14 — not really an upset. Sacred Heart is #64 in the FCS, and Wagner is #95 (out of 125). So Wagner is only better than 30 other FCS teams. (ref: Massey Power Ratings)
Just thought I should let a few folks understand just how pitiful Wagner is...guess that's all.



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