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Michigan, Wisconsin, and Northwestern have all canceled their spring games this year.
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With winter weather set to sweep across the midwest this weekend, spring games across the Big Ten were being canceled. Wisconsin canceled theirs on Tuesday and Michigan and Northwestern followed suit on Wednesday. After last year's debacle, Minnesota was not canceling.
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With winter weather set to sweep across the midwest this weekend, spring games across the Big Ten were being canceled. Wisconsin canceled theirs on Tuesday and Michigan and Northwestern followed suit on Wednesday. After last year's debacle, Minnesota was not canceling.
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Im glad you posted this. I have been worried about the lack of desire from Choate about this Springs work. It seemed like such a gamble for a coach who has very little success in the W column. But, sounds like the time that was used was used very well. Thanks for the post.fsburr1 wrote:I attended several practices. This was far from wasted time. The entire team was alive with high spirits and a competitive attitude and performance. Lots of fundamentals as mentioned in an earlier thread, but I didn't notice any slackers. Not one. The coaches were all engaged 110% and the players were challenged and called out for mistakes. This was as good a spring practice series as I've been witness to here for any number of years. The only thing missing was more full pad contact segments. But when they were in full contact there was a lot of popping to be heard. I guess I would say this is a hungry, eager squad, each and every one from freshman to coach.
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btribby wrote:Im glad you posted this. I have been worried about the lack of desire from Choate about this Springs work. It seemed like such a gamble for a coach who has very little success in the W column. But, sounds like the time that was used was used very well. Thanks for the post.fsburr1 wrote:I attended several practices. This was far from wasted time. The entire team was alive with high spirits and a competitive attitude and performance. Lots of fundamentals as mentioned in an earlier thread, but I didn't notice any slackers. Not one. The coaches were all engaged 110% and the players were challenged and called out for mistakes. This was as good a spring practice series as I've been witness to here for any number of years. The only thing missing was more full pad contact segments. But when they were in full contact there was a lot of popping to be heard. I guess I would say this is a hungry, eager squad, each and every one from freshman to coach.
Seriously....I think a lack of desire to win is probably isn't the issue
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Spring ball is late for younger/less experienced players. I get why Choate doesn't love it, but I think not using all the practices is shortsighted.
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I don't think 2 more practices are going to tell him anything more than what he already learned.bobcat99 wrote:Spring ball is late for younger/less experienced players. I get why Choate doesn't love it, but I think not using all the practices is shortsighted.
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I didnt mean a lack of desire to win. I meant a lack of desire towards the spring drills. My thought was, he hasnt had a winning season yet. So, why not take full advantage of player development. But, as was stated, it sounded like he did.asstastic wrote:btribby wrote:Im glad you posted this. I have been worried about the lack of desire from Choate about this Springs work. It seemed like such a gamble for a coach who has very little success in the W column. But, sounds like the time that was used was used very well. Thanks for the post.fsburr1 wrote:I attended several practices. This was far from wasted time. The entire team was alive with high spirits and a competitive attitude and performance. Lots of fundamentals as mentioned in an earlier thread, but I didn't notice any slackers. Not one. The coaches were all engaged 110% and the players were challenged and called out for mistakes. This was as good a spring practice series as I've been witness to here for any number of years. The only thing missing was more full pad contact segments. But when they were in full contact there was a lot of popping to be heard. I guess I would say this is a hungry, eager squad, each and every one from freshman to coach.
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I just don’t see how two more practice sessions in ice, wind, or snow and cold temperatures will have any effect on summer workouts or fall camp. Seems like making a big deal out of nothing, and it also seems his reasons for doing so are anything but shortsighted since he referenced injuries, workouts over the summer, and then fall camp.bobcat99 wrote:Spring ball is late for younger/less experienced players. I get why Choate doesn't love it, but I think not using all the practices is shortsighted.
If 4 hours of drills in April are going to make or break your season, you already don’t have a good team.
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Make or break? Probly not.PapaG wrote:I just don’t see how two more practice sessions in ice, wind, or snow and cold temperatures will have any effect on summer workouts or fall camp. Seems like making a big deal out of nothing, and it also seems his reasons for doing so are anything but shortsighted since he referenced injuries, workouts over the summer, and then fall camp.bobcat99 wrote:Spring ball is late for younger/less experienced players. I get why Choate doesn't love it, but I think not using all the practices is shortsighted.
If 4 hours of drills in April are going to make or break your season, you already don’t have a good team.
But any reason to continue to get coached up, drill and learn plays is a good reason imo.
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Players develop during the summer (e.g. Lance McCutcheon.)bobcat99 wrote:Make or break? Probly not.PapaG wrote:I just don’t see how two more practice sessions in ice, wind, or snow and cold temperatures will have any effect on summer workouts or fall camp. Seems like making a big deal out of nothing, and it also seems his reasons for doing so are anything but shortsighted since he referenced injuries, workouts over the summer, and then fall camp.bobcat99 wrote:Spring ball is late for younger/less experienced players. I get why Choate doesn't love it, but I think not using all the practices is shortsighted.
If 4 hours of drills in April are going to make or break your season, you already don’t have a good team.
But any reason to continue to get coached up, drill and learn plays is a good reason imo.
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Winter and Summer show up more in the Fall these days IMOHelcat72 wrote:Players develop during the summer (e.g. Lance McCutcheon.)bobcat99 wrote:Make or break? Probly not.PapaG wrote:I just don’t see how two more practice sessions in ice, wind, or snow and cold temperatures will have any effect on summer workouts or fall camp. Seems like making a big deal out of nothing, and it also seems his reasons for doing so are anything but shortsighted since he referenced injuries, workouts over the summer, and then fall camp.bobcat99 wrote:Spring ball is late for younger/less experienced players. I get why Choate doesn't love it, but I think not using all the practices is shortsighted.
If 4 hours of drills in April are going to make or break your season, you already don’t have a good team.
But any reason to continue to get coached up, drill and learn plays is a good reason imo.
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Helcat72 wrote:Players develop during the summer (e.g. Lance McCutcheon.)bobcat99 wrote:Make or break? Probly not.PapaG wrote:I just don’t see how two more practice sessions in ice, wind, or snow and cold temperatures will have any effect on summer workouts or fall camp. Seems like making a big deal out of nothing, and it also seems his reasons for doing so are anything but shortsighted since he referenced injuries, workouts over the summer, and then fall camp.bobcat99 wrote:Spring ball is late for younger/less experienced players. I get why Choate doesn't love it, but I think not using all the practices is shortsighted.
If 4 hours of drills in April are going to make or break your season, you already don’t have a good team.
But any reason to continue to get coached up, drill and learn plays is a good reason imo.
I'm not saying they don't. But spring is important for early enrollee freshman, transfers, and young/inexperienced players. I get avoiding injury, I do...but you can still use all your practice time without adding injury risk.
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Choate’s strategy might be a little different if we had an indoor facility. In perfect weather conditions that an indoor facility would allow, they might practice the full number of days allowed. Maybe not a major shift but at least the practices wouldn’t be affected by the often poor Bozeman spring weather.
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Spring seems to be for injuries these days once a coach knows who his guys are and how hard they will work.Buckaroo Bonzi wrote:
Winter and Summer show up more in the Fall these days IMO
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How many early enrollees, transfers, and "young/inexperienced players" are going to suffer from two less days of drills in awful conditions?bobcat99 wrote:
I'm not saying they don't. But spring is important for early enrollee freshman, transfers, and young/inexperienced players. I get avoiding injury, I do...but you can still use all your practice time without adding injury risk.
Anyhow, let's bring on fall camp!
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I also question the wisdom of practice being early in the morning. I understand that he wants to do it to help players with their schoolwork and that’s a laudable goal. However weather in the spring and late fall in Bozeman is bad enough but it can often be 30° colder at sunrise then it is in the afternoon and I think that can make a significant difference in the quality of your practice time.PapaG wrote:How many early enrollees, transfers, and "young/inexperienced players" are going to suffer from two less days of drills in awful conditions?bobcat99 wrote:
I'm not saying they don't. But spring is important for early enrollee freshman, transfers, and young/inexperienced players. I get avoiding injury, I do...but you can still use all your practice time without adding injury risk.
Anyhow, let's bring on fall camp!
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Long Time Cat wrote:Naw, builds character. Separate the men from the boys and keeps them from heat exhaustion.PapaG wrote:How many early enrollees, transfers, and "young/inexperienced players" are going to suffer from two less days of drills in awful conditions?bobcat99 wrote:
I'm not saying they don't. But spring is important for early enrollee freshman, transfers, and young/inexperienced players. I get avoiding injury, I do...but you can still use all your practice time without adding injury risk.
Anyhow, let's bring on fall camp!
I also question the wisdom of practice being early in the morning. I understand that he wants to do it to help players with their schoolwork and that’s a laudable goal. However weather in the spring and late fall in Bozeman is bad enough but it can often be 30° colder at sunrise then it is in the afternoon and I think that can make a significant difference in the quality of your practice time.
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I think the larger goal for morning practices is they allow for 100% attendance where afternoon practices have the potential for class conflicts for numerous guys.Long Time Cat wrote:I also question the wisdom of practice being early in the morning. I understand that he wants to do it to help players with their schoolwork and that’s a laudable goal. However weather in the spring and late fall in Bozeman is bad enough but it can often be 30° colder at sunrise then it is in the afternoon and I think that can make a significant difference in the quality of your practice time.PapaG wrote:How many early enrollees, transfers, and "young/inexperienced players" are going to suffer from two less days of drills in awful conditions?bobcat99 wrote:
I'm not saying they don't. But spring is important for early enrollee freshman, transfers, and young/inexperienced players. I get avoiding injury, I do...but you can still use all your practice time without adding injury risk.
Anyhow, let's bring on fall camp!
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I think Coach knows what he’s doing and if he didn’t see the benefit in 2 more practice sessions 5 months before the start of the season then we shouldn’t risk injury for no reason.