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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by CelticCat » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:06 pm

iaafan wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:12 pm
I do reference the star ratings, but I don’t assume they’re going to be perfect. From 2016-18 MSU signed 42 star rated players of those 19 are currently making significant contributions. During that same period MSU has signed 55 no star rating players and 11 are currently making significant contributions. That’s 45% to 20%. So it’s difficult for me to just say star ratings don’t matter. It isn’t a be-all, end-all factor, but it does give some indication.
But how many of those star players were zero star players until the Cats offered?


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by TomCat88 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:28 am

CelticCat wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:06 pm
iaafan wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:12 pm
I do reference the star ratings, but I don’t assume they’re going to be perfect. From 2016-18 MSU signed 42 star rated players of those 19 are currently making significant contributions. During that same period MSU has signed 55 no star rating players and 11 are currently making significant contributions. That’s 45% to 20%. So it’s difficult for me to just say star ratings don’t matter. It isn’t a be-all, end-all factor, but it does give some indication.
But how many of those star players were zero star players until the Cats offered?
I’m not sure what all goes into these ratings and maybe you’re just kidding, but I don’t think anyone gets moved from a zero star to a two star because a FCS team offers them. I don’t recall anyone committing to MSU and then improving their rating.


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by Grizaddict » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:54 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:28 am
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:06 pm
iaafan wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:12 pm
I do reference the star ratings, but I don’t assume they’re going to be perfect. From 2016-18 MSU signed 42 star rated players of those 19 are currently making significant contributions. During that same period MSU has signed 55 no star rating players and 11 are currently making significant contributions. That’s 45% to 20%. So it’s difficult for me to just say star ratings don’t matter. It isn’t a be-all, end-all factor, but it does give some indication.
But how many of those star players were zero star players until the Cats offered?
I’m not sure what all goes into these ratings and maybe you’re just kidding, but I don’t think anyone gets moved from a zero star to a two star because a FCS team offers them. I don’t recall anyone committing to MSU and then improving their rating.
Go back one page and see what Vim says. That’s exactly what happens and is quite regular



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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by Rich K » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:27 am

I once heard that the definition of a celebrity is somebody that is famous for being famous. I think the same kind of evaluation goes into the star ratings.


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by VimSince03 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:06 am

Grizaddict wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:54 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:28 am
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:06 pm
iaafan wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:12 pm
I do reference the star ratings, but I don’t assume they’re going to be perfect. From 2016-18 MSU signed 42 star rated players of those 19 are currently making significant contributions. During that same period MSU has signed 55 no star rating players and 11 are currently making significant contributions. That’s 45% to 20%. So it’s difficult for me to just say star ratings don’t matter. It isn’t a be-all, end-all factor, but it does give some indication.
But how many of those star players were zero star players until the Cats offered?
I’m not sure what all goes into these ratings and maybe you’re just kidding, but I don’t think anyone gets moved from a zero star to a two star because a FCS team offers them. I don’t recall anyone committing to MSU and then improving their rating.
Go back one page and see what Vim says. That’s exactly what happens and is quite regular
It happened with OG Donny Long last year. Jumped from a zero star to a three star in one day in January 2018. Same thing happened with Griz DT Randy Rodriguez when he signed back in 2016. I was doing a check daily to see if 247Sports had updated their FCS team rankings. I noticed the changes from one day to the next.


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by TomCat88 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:48 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:06 am
Grizaddict wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:54 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:28 am
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:06 pm
iaafan wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:12 pm
I do reference the star ratings, but I don’t assume they’re going to be perfect. From 2016-18 MSU signed 42 star rated players of those 19 are currently making significant contributions. During that same period MSU has signed 55 no star rating players and 11 are currently making significant contributions. That’s 45% to 20%. So it’s difficult for me to just say star ratings don’t matter. It isn’t a be-all, end-all factor, but it does give some indication.
But how many of those star players were zero star players until the Cats offered?
I’m not sure what all goes into these ratings and maybe you’re just kidding, but I don’t think anyone gets moved from a zero star to a two star because a FCS team offers them. I don’t recall anyone committing to MSU and then improving their rating.
Go back one page and see what Vim says. That’s exactly what happens and is quite regular
It happened with OG Donny Long last year. Jumped from a zero star to a three star in one day in January 2018. Same thing happened with Griz DT Randy Rodriguez when he signed back in 2016. I was doing a check daily to see if 247Sports had updated their FCS team rankings. I noticed the changes from one day to the next.
So 247 saw that Long committed to MSU and he became a 3-star because of that? Donny Long said he’s going to Montana State and 247 decided, based on that, that they should bump him to a 3-star. Got it. Thanks! Yes, it really does happen regularly.


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by catsack » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:27 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:48 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:06 am
Grizaddict wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:54 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:28 am
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:06 pm
iaafan wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:12 pm
I do reference the star ratings, but I don’t assume they’re going to be perfect. From 2016-18 MSU signed 42 star rated players of those 19 are currently making significant contributions. During that same period MSU has signed 55 no star rating players and 11 are currently making significant contributions. That’s 45% to 20%. So it’s difficult for me to just say star ratings don’t matter. It isn’t a be-all, end-all factor, but it does give some indication.
But how many of those star players were zero star players until the Cats offered?
I’m not sure what all goes into these ratings and maybe you’re just kidding, but I don’t think anyone gets moved from a zero star to a two star because a FCS team offers them. I don’t recall anyone committing to MSU and then improving their rating.
Go back one page and see what Vim says. That’s exactly what happens and is quite regular
It happened with OG Donny Long last year. Jumped from a zero star to a three star in one day in January 2018. Same thing happened with Griz DT Randy Rodriguez when he signed back in 2016. I was doing a check daily to see if 247Sports had updated their FCS team rankings. I noticed the changes from one day to the next.
So 247 saw that Long committed to MSU and he became a 3-star because of that? Donny Long said he’s going to Montana State and 247 decided, based on that, that they should bump him to a 3-star. Got it. Thanks! Yes, it really does happen regularly.
They must’ve saw MSU and thought it was Michigan State.



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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by Anacomando » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:37 pm

Any news of transfers coming at key positions?



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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by wbtfg » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:04 pm

Anacomando wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:37 pm
Any news of transfers coming at key positions?
I don’t think there will be any news until late spring/early summer.



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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by CelticCat » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:16 pm

Hayden Nease was at a JC last year, Ventura College, listed as a 6'2 225 lb running back who looks like he was also a WR in high school.

Not sure what he would do at MSU?


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by catatac » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:31 pm

CelticCat wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:16 pm
Hayden Nease was at a JC last year, Ventura College, listed as a 6'2 225 lb running back who looks like he was also a WR in high school.

Not sure what he would do at MSU?
My vote is no more RBs at this point!


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by AFCAT » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:40 pm

catatac wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:31 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:16 pm
Hayden Nease was at a JC last year, Ventura College, listed as a 6'2 225 lb running back who looks like he was also a WR in high school.

Not sure what he would do at MSU?
My vote is no more RBs at this point!
He has a linebackers size, so move him there.


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by Hawks86 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:47 pm

Looks like it was just an unofficial visit.


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Post by kwcat » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:52 pm

Hawks86 wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:47 pm
Looks like it was just an unofficial visit.
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Post by Montanabob » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:14 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:40 pm
catatac wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:31 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:16 pm
Hayden Nease was at a JC last year, Ventura College, listed as a 6'2 225 lb running back who looks like he was also a WR in high school.

Not sure what he would do at MSU?
My vote is no more RBs at this point!
He has a linebackers size, so move him there.
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Post by GrizgradCatFan » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:03 pm

Put on 20lbs and tight end or replacement for BIG BACON!



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Post by Mtcatfan » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:05 pm

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Post by mslacatfan » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:15 pm

CelticCat wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:16 pm
Hayden Nease was at a JC last year, Ventura College, listed as a 6'2 225 lb running back who looks like he was also a WR in high school.

Not sure what he would do at MSU?

Looks to me like an obvious addition to the QB room.


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Re: 2019 MSU Recruiting (30 Signees)

Post by 94VegasCat » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:43 pm

Why would we turn someone away with that size and talent?


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