WAY WAY Too early To predict Two-deep

[The MICKSTER]

Below is a WAG. Players in Blue are either ‘new’ or ‘relatively new’ to the two-deep rotation.

OFFENSE
Left Tackle - Mitch Brott/Sean Hatten
Left Guard –Jake Sessions/Conor Wood
Center – Alex Neale/Denver Krone
Right Guard –T. Tuiasosopo/Jarrod Asche
Right Tackle – Lewis Kidd/Colin Hammock
QB – Chris Murray/Tucker Rovig/Brady McChesney
RB – Logan Jones/Troy Anderson/Ed Vander/Noah James
X-Reciever – John D’Agostino/Lance McCutcheon/James Campbell
H Receiver – Kevin Kassis/Karl Tucker II/Coy Steel
Z Receiver – Jabarri Johnson/Peyton Hanser
TE – Connor Sullivan/Curtis Amos/Wilson Brott

DEFENSE
Buck – Tyrone Fa’anono/Michael Jobman
Tackle – Zach Wright/Chase Benson/Travis Yates
Nose – Tucker Yates/Elu Leota
End - Grant Collins/Derek Marks
Will – Brayden Konkol/Chad Kanow
Mike – Josh Hill/ Walker Cozzie
Sam – Jacob Hadley/Balue Chapman
Field Corner – Jalen Cole/Braelen Evans
Free Safety – JoJo Henderson/Keaton Anderson
Strong Safety – Ben Folsom/West Wilson
Boundary Corner – Tyrel Thomas/Damien Washington

Others on Defense that could be in the mix are;
@LB; Tad Gilman, Sean Opland
Possibly at Safety; Luke May
On D-line; Kyle Rygg, Jaxen Hashley

I’m not sure if each OL, LB, or WR is in their ‘right’ position. I think Troy Anderson will remain at RB since it seems we’re loaded at LB. If we can find another DE then Collins or Jobman may move to LB, and Konkol could move to Safety.

If I’m making a X-mas list of transfers I’d have to say;
• DE pass rush specialist
• either a corner or safety

Things I’m most excited/hopeful about this coming season;
• Improved interior DL play
• Jacob Hadley’s possible impact
• Chris Murray’s continued development as a passer
* PLAYOFFS!

GO CATS!

[mslacatfan]

Lots of young/new guys that I am excited to see play.

one guy I am definitely curious to see play this next spring/fall is Peyton Hanser.... I'm hoping he becomes the next Tanner Bleskin/Mitch Herbert type receiver for the Cats. He has great size, and seems to be pretty athletic....

Same goes for Keaton Anderson..... There were a lot of posters that had him pegged as the top recruit in that class. Hoping he can live up to the hype.

[bobcat99]

We need a boost in WR talent.

Zach Redd should be the backup C.
Brody McKnight will push for time.
Might see Lewis-Kidd at LT rather than Brott.
Keaton Anderson or Konkol will start at safety.
Will be interesting to see where Hashley plays.

There are so many guys I look at and I wish we had room for them to play. Haven't felt that way in a few years. That's exciting.

[AFCAT]

I think Willie Patterson may be a possibility at receiver next season. Sal Aguilar and Jackson McCleery may make some noise at linebacker. A yet to be named Freshman or two will be playing a lot as well. West Wilson graduated and used up his eligibility, so he won't be playing.

[arvcat2]

Good first stab at it Mickster and what a great group of returning players we have. Bobcat99 picked up the oversights but I don't remember K. Anderson ever being mentioned this fall (other than missing all of fall camp). Regarding transfers - the pass rush specialist is on the roster in Kanow (remember Brad Daly as a true frosh and he didn't light it up until after his year off in the oil fields). We need a transfer kicker now who can boot it out of the endzone. Also, look at the tight ends, all seniors After next year, then what?

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

As far as tight ends after next year, Davis will be the guy as it sits right now. He played this year as a true freshman, granted he was used more as a Hback, but he got quite a few snaps. I don’t see the tight ends as a huge issue, since we never seem to use them as pass catchers, even though we have a weapon in Sullivan. I hope the staff makes a point to get him the ball next year and whomever the QB is, I hope they look over the middle more for the tight end.

[arvcat2]

As far as tight ends after next year, Davis will be the guy as it sits right now. He played this year as a true freshman, granted he was used more as a Hback, but he got quite a few snaps. I don’t see the tight ends as a huge issue, since we never seem to use them as pass catchers, even though we have a weapon in Sullivan. I hope the staff makes a point to get him the ball next year and whomever the QB is, I hope they look over the middle more for the tight end.

Completely agree, but that leads to the who should be the QB discussion and who has the high velocity arm over the middle.

[catscat]

Below is a WAG. Players in Blue are either ‘new’ or ‘relatively new’ to the two-deep rotation.

OFFENSE
Left Tackle - Mitch Brott/Sean Hatten
Left Guard –Jake Sessions/Conor Wood
Center – Alex Neale/Denver Krone
Right Guard –T. Tuiasosopo/Jarrod Asche
Right Tackle – Lewis Kidd/Colin Hammock
QB – Chris Murray/Tucker Rovig/Brady McChesney
RB – Logan Jones/Troy Anderson/Ed Vander/Noah James
X-Reciever – John D’Agostino/Lance McCutcheon/James Campbell
H Receiver – Kevin Kassis/Karl Tucker II/Coy Steel
Z Receiver – Jabarri Johnson/Peyton Hanser
TE – Connor Sullivan/Curtis Amos/Wilson Brott

DEFENSE
Buck – Tyrone Fa’anono/Michael Jobman
Tackle – Zach Wright/Chase Benson/Travis Yates
Nose – Tucker Yates/Elu Leota
End - Grant Collins/Derek Marks
Will – Brayden Konkol/Chad Kanow
Mike – Josh Hill/ Walker Cozzie
Sam – Jacob Hadley/Balue Chapman
Field Corner – Jalen Cole/Braelen Evans
Free Safety – JoJo Henderson/Keaton Anderson
Strong Safety – Ben Folsom/West Wilson
Boundary Corner – Tyrel Thomas/Damien Washington

Others on Defense that could be in the mix are;
@LB; Tad Gilman, Sean Opland
Possibly at Safety; Luke May
On D-line; Kyle Rygg, Jaxen Hashley

I’m not sure if each OL, LB, or WR is in their ‘right’ position. I think Troy Anderson will remain at RB since it seems we’re loaded at LB. If we can find another DE then Collins or Jobman may move to LB, and Konkol could move to Safety.

If I’m making a X-mas list of transfers I’d have to say;
• DE pass rush specialist
• either a corner or safety

Things I’m most excited/hopeful about this coming season;
• Improved interior DL play
• Jacob Hadley’s possible impact
• Chris Murray’s continued development as a passer
* PLAYOFFS!

GO CATS!

West Wilson was a senior this year. Need to find another safety. (West was a real kick).

[GoldstoneCat]

I wonder if you'd see Collins back at mlb, with hill at Sam and Hadley at will, kicking konkol back to SS, at least on running downs. Think we could use an infusion of some veteran talent at safety. Love our depth and positional versatility returning on defense.
Is there a chance a recovered karl Tucker cracks the 2 deep at receiver? Also, i agree with you Anderson has to slot in at RB, too good there. Could be a nice rotation with him, vander, Jones, with Burgess getting 4 or 5 touches as a joker back. Boy, if we can get the o-line rolling, i love our offensive depth as well.

[superbobcat]

Our offense should show the experience next year, look at all the returners. My biggest concern is RB depending on Troy's status, we don't have the banger. I would like to see us put Fitzgerald in the FB position and run a little "old school" I formation next year with these backs. If Murray can continue to develop and occasionally go under center, this offense could be very difficult for any defense.
OFFENSE
Left Tackle - Mitch Brott/Sean Hatten
Left Guard –Jake Sessions/Conor Wood This one will be a battle.
Center – Alex Neale/Denver Krone
Right Guard –T. Tuiasosopo/Jarrod Asche
Right Tackle – Lewis Kidd/Colin Hammock
QB – Chris Murray/Tucker Rovig/Brady McChesney
RB – Logan Jones/Troy Anderson/Ed Vander/Burgess-Love to see Troy at LB, but unless we pick up a JC transfer, we need him here.
X-Reciever – Lance McCutcheon/John D’Agostino/Patterson
H Receiver – Kevin Kassis/Karl Tucker II/Coy Steel
Z Receiver – Jabarri Johnson/Peyton Hanser
TE – Connor Sullivan/Curtis Amos/Wilson Brott

DEFENSE
Buck Tyrone Fa’anono/–Michael Jobman/Chad Kanow
Tackle – Zach Wright/Chase Benson/Travis Yates
Nose – Tucker Yates/Elu Leota
End - Derek Marks /Tyrone Fa’anono/Ferriter
Will –Grant Collins// Opeland
Mike – Josh Hill/ Walker Cozzie/ Gillman
Sam – Jacob Hadley/Balue Chapman
Field Corner – Jalen Cole/Braelen Evans
Free Safety – JoJo Henderson/Keaton Anderson/May I think Jo Jo will have a big year.
Strong Safety –Brayden Konkol, Ben Folsom/May
Boundary Corner – Tyrel Thomas/Damien Washington


Look at the depth that has been developed. This is harder than it looks, which is a good thing. Lot of talented young number 2's waiting for their chance.

[Mr Lisle]

We need a boost in WR talent.

Zach Redd should be the backup C.
Brody McKnight will push for time.
Might see Lewis-Kidd at LT rather than Brott.
Keaton Anderson or Konkol will start at safety.
Will be interesting to see where Hashley plays.

There are so many guys I look at and I wish we had room for them to play. Haven't felt that way in a few years. That's exciting.

I predict Brody McKnight will be the second coming of J.P.

[bobcat99]

In a primarily passing league, I doubt we see Collins at Mike. He certainly can't play Sam or Will.

[GoldstoneCat]

In a primarily passing league, I doubt we see Collins at Mike. He certainly can't play Sam or Will.

Makes sense, prolly back to DE. He seems a bit of a tweener, a man without a logical position, doesn't he? I think there's at least a chance he has to get in the QB rushing line behind Kanow and Marks next year.

[VimSince03]

In a primarily passing league, I doubt we see Collins at Mike. He certainly can't play Sam or Will.

Makes sense, prolly back to DE. He seems a bit of a tweener, a man without a logical position, doesn't he? I think there's at least a chance he has to get in the QB rushing line behind Kanow and Marks next year.

MSU was just entering the part of the schedule where they would face "pass-heavy" conference teams (EWU, Idaho State, NAU, Montana) and Grant got hurt in the 4th quarter of the first one (EWU). I predict he would have finished the year with about 6-7 sacks while giving the defense more versatility by shifting into the MLB role on certain downs. I know Grant is considered a "tweener" but he has proven he is a chess piece that makes MSU's defense better. Hope he can have a healthy senior season.

[imacat]

[quote="bobcat99"]We need a boost in WR talent.

This is a coaching weakness. Our WRs were not used effectively last season and it was not from lack of talent. Herbert is one of best we have ever had. It is also not just Murray. It is lack of imagination in game planning and play calling.


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[VimSince03]

We need a boost in WR talent.

This is a coaching weakness. Our WRs were not used effectively last season and it was not from lack of talent. Herbert is one of best we have ever had. It is also not just Murray. It is lack of imagination in game planning and play calling.


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75% disagree with this because Armstrong's playcalling was odd at times. Receivers got open often on creative playcalling and Murray failed to deliver the ball. It showed up on every recorded game this year. Every one. Chris improved but will need to take the next step in "seeing the field" next year. Also to be clear, Matt Miller has done an excellent job as the WR coach in all aspects.

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

We need a boost in WR talent.

This is a coaching weakness. Our WRs were not used effectively last season and it was not from lack of talent. Herbert is one of best we have ever had. It is also not just Murray. It is lack of imagination in game planning and play calling.


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I see it completely different, the coaches were way to imaginative with the pass routes, the routes were always slow developing and way to complex for our QB to anticipate when the receiver was open. Inside the 20 yard line this year, forget about an easy throw for Murray, Armstrong was dialing up a home run throw or run play.The routes for the most part were deeper crossing routes, with tons of pre snap reads, and our receivers had a tough time getting open due to that. We definitely need upgrades at the WR position and quicker routes for our young QBs to get the ball out and then let the receivers make plays.

Edit: I believe we have the receivers they just need to upgrade their play along with QB. Murray did miss a lot of guys too so it’s blame across the board coaches, WR, and QB

[catsrback76]

We need a boost in WR talent.

This is a coaching weakness. Our WRs were not used effectively last season and it was not from lack of talent. Herbert is one of best we have ever had. It is also not just Murray. It is lack of imagination in game planning and play calling.


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75% disagree with this because Armstrong's playcalling was odd at times. Receivers got open often on creative playcalling and Murray failed to deliver the ball. It showed up on every recorded game this year. Every one. Chris improved but will need to take the next step in "seeing the field" next year. Also to be clear, Matt Miller has done an excellent job as the WR coach in all aspects.

Absolutely agree! The gameplans offensively were by enlarge way better for the Cats this past season than previously under Messingham. There were some head scratchers called, but hey, this was his first season in the booth for the Cats. He will learn. Also, not knowing if Chris could hit a bull in the ass with a broom while passing does tend to make one a bit cautious when calling plays other than a run!

[spring creek cat]

Is roper officially retired? I must have missed that, I just don't see his name anywhere


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[catsrback76]

Is roper officially retired? I must have missed that, I just don't see his name anywhere


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Injury retirement