Way too early prediction thread for next year's schedule

[GoldstoneCat]

I think Choates team is progressing in the right direction. But, I feel like if Chris is our QB we are 6-5 at best. I just dont see him magically being a great QB by next fall. And if he is out best option going into fall camp, then our QB recruiting has not been what we think it is.

I guess i see it totally different from that. For a team that wants to run the ball, a dynamic threat like Murray is a plus, i think. He can throw it enough if given the right play calls to be plenty good for us to win 8 or 9 games with our schedule. I don't think we have enough weapons without him, personally.

[Hawks86]

I think Choates team is progressing in the right direction. But, I feel like if Chris is our QB we are 6-5 at best. I just dont see him magically being a great QB by next fall. And if he is out best option going into fall camp, then our QB recruiting has not been what we think it is.

I guess i see it totally different from that. For a team that wants to run the ball, a dynamic threat like Murray is a plus, i think. He can throw it enough if given the right play calls to be plenty good for us to win 8 or 9 games with our schedule. I don't think we have enough weapons without him, personally.

These opposite views also reflect what Choate might decide to do at QB during a contract year. Despite what griz fans think, He needs more than a win vs. the griz next year. More of the same? Start a RF or true frosh? Sign a drop-down or Juco QB?

[Mtcatfan]

Just bring in Rovig on passing downs.

[iaafan]

My guess is Murray will make a couple more strides this year, as he did last year, and we’ll see MSU pass more often with greater efficiency. If his passer rating rises another 12 points it will make a noticeable difference. It went from 110.6 to 122.6 and he was coming on strong the last two games where he had a 146.6 rating. MSU scored 67 points over those two games. They’ve only surpassed that once vs FCS teams the past two seasons.

I think Murray is the fourth best QB returning next year behind Gubrud, Maier, and Cookus. I don’t think Jensen or Gueller are as good. They put up better passing numbers, but Murray out performed both head to head. Both of them padded their stats against weak teams due to playing more pass-heavy offenses. Murray won the eye test in the Cat-Griz and ISU games.

[The MICKSTER]

I think Choates team is progressing in the right direction. But, I feel like if Chris is our QB we are 6-5 at best. I just dont see him magically being a great QB by next fall. And if he is out best option going into fall camp, then our QB recruiting has not been what we think it is.

I guess i see it totally different from that. For a team that wants to run the ball, a dynamic threat like Murray is a plus, i think. He can throw it enough if given the right play calls to be plenty good for us to win 8 or 9 games with our schedule. I don't think we have enough weapons without him, personally.

These opposite views also reflect what Choate might decide to do at QB during a contract year. Despite what griz fans think, He needs more than a win vs. the griz next year. More of the same? Start a RF or true frosh? Sign a drop-down or Juco QB?

FYI, below are Chris Murray's stats from 2016 & 2017;

RUSHING
Year………GP……….Att……..Net Yds……….AVG………TD’s…..Avg/G
2017…….11…………191……..1124………….5.9……….10………..102
2016…...11*……….138….……860…………..6.2……...12……….…78
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PASSING----definitely trending in the right direction
Year…GP……….Eff….…..C – A – Int……%......Yds……TD’s…..Avg/G......Avg/Att....Att's/Int
2017…11…….122.6.….120-233-9……..52…..1597…...15………145............6.9.........~26
2016…11*…..110.6…...47-105-8……..45.....778……...6………..71............7.4.........~13

*NOTE; in 2016 CM played in 11 games, but up until the 5th game (I think) he didn't start, so he really played more like ~ 8 games or so.

MSU Bobcats 2017 - 4366 Total Offensive Yards on 720 plays = Average of 6.1 yards/play and 397 yards/game
MSU Bobcats 2016 - 4047 Total Offensive Yards on 732 plays = Average of 5.5 yards/play and 368 yards/game

Next year let's hope that Pass Efficiency continues to increase, and the # of Pass Attempts / Interception doubles again.

[GoldstoneCat]

I think Choates team is progressing in the right direction. But, I feel like if Chris is our QB we are 6-5 at best. I just dont see him magically being a great QB by next fall. And if he is out best option going into fall camp, then our QB recruiting has not been what we think it is.

I guess i see it totally different from that. For a team that wants to run the ball, a dynamic threat like Murray is a plus, i think. He can throw it enough if given the right play calls to be plenty good for us to win 8 or 9 games with our schedule. I don't think we have enough weapons without him, personally.

These opposite views also reflect what Choate might decide to do at QB during a contract year. Despite what griz fans think, He needs more than a win vs. the griz next year. More of the same? Start a RF or true frosh? Sign a drop-down or Juco QB?

FYI, below are Chris Murray's stats from 2016 & 2017;

RUSHING
Year………GP……….Att……..Net Yds……….AVG………TD’s…..Avg/G
2017…….11…………191……..1124………….5.9……….10………..102
2016…...11*……….138….……860…………..6.2……...12……….…78
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PASSING----definitely trending in the right direction
Year…GP……….Eff….…..C – A – Int……%......Yds……TD’s…..Avg/G......Avg/Att....Att's/Int
2017…11…….122.6.….120-233-9……..52…..1597…...15………145............6.9.........~26
2016…11*…..110.6…...47-105-8……..45.....778……...6………..71............7.4.........~13

*NOTE; in 2016 CM played in 11 games, but up until the 5th game (I think) he didn't start, so he really played more like ~ 8 games or so.

MSU Bobcats 2017 - 4366 Total Offensive Yards on 720 plays = Average of 6.1 yards/play and 397 yards/game
MSU Bobcats 2016 - 4047 Total Offensive Yards on 732 plays = Average of 5.5 yards/play and 368 yards/game

Next year let's hope that Pass Efficiency continues to increase, and the # of Pass Attempts / Interception doubles again.

Yeah, he can't be a finished product yet, or that's not going to be good enough. But if he improves at all, that weapon at that position is too valuable not to play him.