I agree as well. I say use Troy in the #1 rotation at running back and also use him as a situational pass rush specialist on long passing downs on D (He gets to the QB fast and can also run down the QB from behind if he tries to run to get the first down).kwcat wrote:I think Troy will be in the #1 rotation for running back with Logan Jones and Tyler Natee. JMO.
I realize Natee is expected to be more of a fb but I believe, if he loses some weight, you will see him as more of a pure rb.
I have no reason to believe Jones will not be the main back.
These three are the only RBs will meaningful D1 experience.
Hopeful on the incoming hs guys. Maybe most redshirt unless they have had great off seasons.
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I agree, but more of Troy than Logan.kwcat wrote:I think Troy will be in the #1 rotation for running back with Logan Jones and Tyler Natee. JMO.
I realize Natee is expected to be more of a fb but I believe, if he loses some weight, you will see him as more of a pure rb.
I have no reason to believe Jones will not be the main back.
These three are the only RBs will meaningful D1 experience.
Hopeful on the incoming hs guys. Maybe most redshirt unless they have had great off seasons.
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I see no sense in putting anybody else on the field. When you have Superman, he can cover all positions.
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What type of receiver would a 6'3" (conservative I believe) 220 lb. kid with this type of speed make? Great hands we already know and I don't believe I've ever seen a high school team, let alone college, drop as many passes as this team the last two years.
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I don’t think Natee is supposed to be a FB.kwcat wrote:I think Troy will be in the #1 rotation for running back with Logan Jones and Tyler Natee. JMO.
I realize Natee is expected to be more of a fb but I believe, if he loses some weight, you will see him as more of a pure rb.
I have no reason to believe Jones will not be the main back.
These three are the only RBs will meaningful D1 experience.
Hopeful on the incoming hs guys. Maybe most redshirt unless they have had great off seasons.
Nobody has said that.
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He should be a FB. Running options with him up the middle as the first option would be a fantastic way to set up a plethora of other options. Choate mentioned that the defender facing a Murray option to Natee up the middle would have to make a "business decision." He can't half-way address either of them. If he doesn't give Natee his full attention he'll get run over, if he doesn't give Murray his full attention he'll be left in the dust.bobcat99 wrote:I don’t think Natee is supposed to be a FB.kwcat wrote:I think Troy will be in the #1 rotation for running back with Logan Jones and Tyler Natee. JMO.
I realize Natee is expected to be more of a fb but I believe, if he loses some weight, you will see him as more of a pure rb.
I have no reason to believe Jones will not be the main back.
These three are the only RBs will meaningful D1 experience.
Hopeful on the incoming hs guys. Maybe most redshirt unless they have had great off seasons.
Nobody has said that.
I think Natee will serve either as the guy up the middle or as a pass blocker.
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NATEE was recruited as our power fullback - what makes you say he wasn't? Read all of Choate's comments.bobcat99 wrote:I don’t think Natee is supposed to be a FB.kwcat wrote:I think Troy will be in the #1 rotation for running back with Logan Jones and Tyler Natee. JMO.
I realize Natee is expected to be more of a fb but I believe, if he loses some weight, you will see him as more of a pure rb.
I have no reason to believe Jones will not be the main back.
These three are the only RBs will meaningful D1 experience.
Hopeful on the incoming hs guys. Maybe most redshirt unless they have had great off seasons.
Nobody has said that.
Oh and he was a QB so expect to see a few trick plays with Natee in Wild Cat....
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He could be great if we had a legitimate passing game.Cat Grad wrote:What type of receiver would a 6'3" (conservative I believe) 220 lb. kid with this type of speed make? Great hands we already know and I don't believe I've ever seen a high school team, let alone college, drop as many passes as this team the last two years.
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Maybe we put Troy at QB.catsrback76 wrote:He could be great if we had a legitimate passing game.Cat Grad wrote:What type of receiver would a 6'3" (conservative I believe) 220 lb. kid with this type of speed make? Great hands we already know and I don't believe I've ever seen a high school team, let alone college, drop as many passes as this team the last two years.
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I think there is a rb transfer the coaching staff has in mind this off season...
https://twitter.com/Maleekbarkley14/status/1007442752403984384
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Team10 wrote:I think there is a rb transfer the coaching staff has in mind this off season... https://twitter.com/Maleekbarkley14/status/1007442752403984384
I pulled some film on him, very impressive player. I wonder how many more scholies the Cats have left though.
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Am I missing something about this kid having interest in MSU?AFCAT wrote:Team10 wrote:I think there is a rb transfer the coaching staff has in mind this off season... https://twitter.com/Maleekbarkley14/status/1007442752403984384
I pulled some film on him, very impressive player. I wonder how many more scholies the Cats have left though.
Looks like a very good player and obviously I see he’s leaving Arkansas, but is there a connection to MSU?
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Choate, DM, and Armstrong are all following him on Twitter...Catsrgrood wrote:Am I missing something about this kid having interest in MSU?AFCAT wrote:Team10 wrote:I think there is a rb transfer the coaching staff has in mind this off season... https://twitter.com/Maleekbarkley14/status/1007442752403984384
I pulled some film on him, very impressive player. I wonder how many more scholies the Cats have left though.
Looks like a very good player and obviously I see he’s leaving Arkansas, but is there a connection to MSU?
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I see some of the coaching staff follow him on Twitter. Guess that is kind of a good sign.
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Interesting article about short yardage situations and body types/success rate of so called short yardage backs. I thought it was relevant based on people's faith in Natee being a big body so therefore automatically being a short yardage back.
http://grantland.com/features/bill-barn ... -trenches/
The statistics show that being a big bodied back has no correlation with being good in short yardage situations. The biggest correlation had to do with having a great/elite offensive line and being a midsized back. Check it out!
P.S. yes the article is a bit old, but the information is still relevant. And this isn't to say Natee won't be a good short yardage back. I'm just trying to say that Natee won't necessarily be a good short yardage back just because he's big.
http://grantland.com/features/bill-barn ... -trenches/
The statistics show that being a big bodied back has no correlation with being good in short yardage situations. The biggest correlation had to do with having a great/elite offensive line and being a midsized back. Check it out!
P.S. yes the article is a bit old, but the information is still relevant. And this isn't to say Natee won't be a good short yardage back. I'm just trying to say that Natee won't necessarily be a good short yardage back just because he's big.
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Wonder if we’d have him play rb or slot. Looks like a very good player.Team10 wrote:I think there is a rb transfer the coaching staff has in mind this off season... https://twitter.com/Maleekbarkley14/status/1007442752403984384
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Do you ever wonder how a kid can go from completing almost every pass he throws in high school to not being able to complete half of them? Have you ever asked why a pass that hits the receiver in the hands but somehow winds up on the ground counts against the quarterback? If the Cats have to throw it 10 times a game this year I'm going to be pissed at the line and running backs effort.catsrback76 wrote:He could be great if we had a legitimate passing game.Cat Grad wrote:What type of receiver would a 6'3" (conservative I believe) 220 lb. kid with this type of speed make? Great hands we already know and I don't believe I've ever seen a high school team, let alone college, drop as many passes as this team the last two years.
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Cat Grad wrote:Do you ever wonder how a kid can go from completing almost every pass he throws in high school to not being able to complete half of them? Have you ever asked why a pass that hits the receiver in the hands but somehow winds up on the ground counts against the quarterback? If the Cats have to throw it 10 times a game this year I'm going to be pissed at the line and running backs effort.catsrback76 wrote:He could be great if we had a legitimate passing game.Cat Grad wrote:What type of receiver would a 6'3" (conservative I believe) 220 lb. kid with this type of speed make? Great hands we already know and I don't believe I've ever seen a high school team, let alone college, drop as many passes as this team the last two years.
Yeah, me too, and wouldn't it be great if every receiver was 7 ft tall with a 3 foot vertical to catch all those overthrown balls too???
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blueandgoldblitz wrote:Interesting article about short yardage situations and body types/success rate of so called short yardage backs. I thought it was relevant based on people's faith in Natee being a big body so therefore automatically being a short yardage back.
http://grantland.com/features/bill-barn ... -trenches/
The statistics show that being a big bodied back has no correlation with being good in short yardage situations. The biggest correlation had to do with having a great/elite offensive line and being a midsized back. Check it out!
But I have COMPLETE confidence of will not be average but will be exceptional. Holes that trucks can go through and give Murray options that he didn't have the last two years.
P.S. yes the article is a bit old, but the information is still relevant. And this isn't to say Natee won't be a good short yardage back. I'm just trying to say that Natee won't necessarily be a good short yardage back just because he's big.
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[quote="catsrback76"][quote="Cat Grad"][quote="catsrback76"][quote="Cat Grad"]What type of receiver would a 6'3" (conservative I believe) 220 lb. kid with this type of speed make? Great hands we already know and I don't believe I've ever seen a high school team, let alone college, drop as many passes as this team the last two years.[/quote]
He could be great if we had a legitimate passing game.[/quote]
Do you ever wonder how a kid can go from completing almost every pass he throws in high school to not being able to complete half of them? Have you ever asked why a pass that hits the receiver in the hands but somehow winds up on the ground counts against the quarterback? If the Cats have to throw it 10 times a game this year I'm going to be pissed at the line and running backs effort.[/quote]
Yeah, me too, and wouldn't it be great if every receiver was 7 ft tall with a 3 foot vertical to catch all those overthrown balls too???[/quote]
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“I’ve been around the block a few times and I’ve looked at a lot of different quarterbacks. He throws the ball a lot better than people think he does.”
He could be great if we had a legitimate passing game.[/quote]
Do you ever wonder how a kid can go from completing almost every pass he throws in high school to not being able to complete half of them? Have you ever asked why a pass that hits the receiver in the hands but somehow winds up on the ground counts against the quarterback? If the Cats have to throw it 10 times a game this year I'm going to be pissed at the line and running backs effort.[/quote]
Yeah, me too, and wouldn't it be great if every receiver was 7 ft tall with a 3 foot vertical to catch all those overthrown balls too???[/quote]
Bob Cole on Murray:
“I’ve been around the block a few times and I’ve looked at a lot of different quarterbacks. He throws the ball a lot better than people think he does.”