I'm pretty sure they are the first ones ever to use this system and we would just be copying them if we used it also.catsrback76 wrote:I agree, though it is a cork material rather than rubber and apparently does not retain heat as much. Just wondering more if this is the standard installation or an "add-on" accessory that uM is using to try and sell their stadium as avant guard.91catAlum wrote:Not sure... But that sure doesn't seem like something you need in the Fall in Montana. Depending on the cost, I guess.catsrback76 wrote:Curious if we are also getting the "cooling system" for the turf put in like uM is??? Just wondering.
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On a hot day, which we have plenty of early in the season, the temp taken on the field turf level could be 150° The cork utilized cooling system knock that down at least 30° I think it's a wise investment and I'm sure the players will appreciate it greatly on a hot day
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Having work on several turf fields I can say there are pros and cons for each system. The chrome rubber is still the cheapest but it goes everywhere and gets into everything. However it can be re-used when the field is replaced. There are nu-proven concerns that the chrome rubber can lead to cancer. Cork has a cooler surface than the rubber but costs a little more. There is some annual replacement needed and it can not be re-used when the field is replaced. The cork has a tendency to high high static cling the first 6 months or so. Right after it's installed it will stick to everything. Overall it's a better system then the rubber. The coolmax is coated rubber product. The product data show it to be much cooler playing surface than then the chrome rubber. Not many field have installed it yet as it's fairly new and has a significantly higher cost per square foot cost. All three have good play-ability.
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Read an interesting fact today about colored turf. When Boise installed their blue turf they got a trademark that says all schools wanting to install colored turf has to get the go ahead from Boise 1st. Now that's power.
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Yeah, I'd like to see that trademark challenged. I'd like to see them in court trying to justify owning every shade of every color in the spectrum. Good luck with that. Nice way to get publicity though.BleedingBLue wrote:Read an interesting fact today about colored turf. When Boise installed their blue turf they got a trademark that says all schools wanting to install colored turf has to get the go ahead from Boise 1st. Now that's power.
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Trademark law is pretty interesting. Some years ago GM went after a bar in eastern Wyoming called "Jeep's." In order to keep your trademark you must defend it and apparently if GM had not gone after Jeep's bar it might have failed that requirement. I think they ended up settling out of court.To do that, Bickerton’s biggest weapon is a trademark — one that some experts deem overly broad and open to challenges — that effectively gives Boise State veto power over anyone looking to add a splash of color to anything but its end zones.
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Yup.... and green would be a pretty tough one to enforce.AFCAT wrote:Yeah, I'd like to see that trademark challenged. I'd like to see them in court trying to justify owning every shade of every color in the spectrum. Good luck with that. Nice way to get publicity though.BleedingBLue wrote:Read an interesting fact today about colored turf. When Boise installed their blue turf they got a trademark that says all schools wanting to install colored turf has to get the go ahead from Boise 1st. Now that's power.
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FieldTurf has the project up on their website:
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/artificial- ... at-stadium
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/artificial- ... at-stadium
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Checking out the Field Turf site, it looks to be about a $35,000 upgrade.norcal cat wrote:Having work on several turf fields I can say there are pros and cons for each system. The chrome rubber is still the cheapest but it goes everywhere and gets into everything. However it can be re-used when the field is replaced. There are nu-proven concerns that the chrome rubber can lead to cancer. Cork has a cooler surface than the rubber but costs a little more. There is some annual replacement needed and it can not be re-used when the field is replaced. The cork has a tendency to high high static cling the first 6 months or so. Right after it's installed it will stick to everything. Overall it's a better system then the rubber. The coolmax is coated rubber product. The product data show it to be much cooler playing surface than then the chrome rubber. Not many field have installed it yet as it's fairly new and has a significantly higher cost per square foot cost. All three have good play-ability.
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I should have clarified by saying all non green colors.catatac wrote:Yup.... and green would be a pretty tough one to enforce.AFCAT wrote:Yeah, I'd like to see that trademark challenged. I'd like to see them in court trying to justify owning every shade of every color in the spectrum. Good luck with that. Nice way to get publicity though.BleedingBLue wrote:Read an interesting fact today about colored turf. When Boise installed their blue turf they got a trademark that says all schools wanting to install colored turf has to get the go ahead from Boise 1st. Now that's power.
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I hate being negative, but...
looking at that live feed, all I can think about is how hideous those stands look... are those rusted pieces of crap even safe to stand on at this point?
I'm excited to see the new turf though!
looking at that live feed, all I can think about is how hideous those stands look... are those rusted pieces of crap even safe to stand on at this point?
I'm excited to see the new turf though!
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You never see how bad the east seats are when they are full of fans. But when I win the lottery, I am donating big time. My sky box will probably have a hot tub.mslacatfan wrote:I hate being negative, but...
looking at that live feed, all I can think about is how hideous those stands look... are those rusted pieces of crap even safe to stand on at this point?
I'm excited to see the new turf though!
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That's what I would do too. And I would provide scholarships to the cheerleading squad since there really aren't any. I feel like they are the forgotten sport. And I would also provide said hot tub for them after the game to soak their tired muscles in. We would still be around drinking some beers and stuff but it wouldn't be an inconvenience to us. I'd be really generous like that.St George wrote:You never see how bad the east seats are when they are full of fans. But when I win the lottery, I am donating big time. My sky box will probably have a hot tub.mslacatfan wrote:I hate being negative, but...
looking at that live feed, all I can think about is how hideous those stands look... are those rusted pieces of crap even safe to stand on at this point?
I'm excited to see the new turf though!
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mslacatfan wrote:I hate being negative, but...
looking at that live feed, all I can think about is how hideous those stands look... are those rusted pieces of crap even safe to stand on at this point?
I'm excited to see the new turf though!
They are ugly, but the surface rust on the bleachers themselves doesn't necessarily mean the stands are structurally deficient or at risk of collapse.
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They aren't at risk of collapse, but my foot busted all the way through when I was running stairs the other day in my gray sweats and black Chucks. Caused my Walkman to fall out of my pocket and ejected the Survivor tape init into a pool of water. I was yelling, "Adrian, Adrian!!!" No one came to help.AFCAT wrote:mslacatfan wrote:I hate being negative, but...
looking at that live feed, all I can think about is how hideous those stands look... are those rusted pieces of crap even safe to stand on at this point?
I'm excited to see the new turf though!
They are ugly, but the surface rust on the bleachers themselves doesn't necessarily mean the stands are structurally deficient or at risk of collapse.
So they need to be replaced.
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TomCat88 wrote:They aren't at risk of collapse, but my foot busted all the way through when I was running stairs the other day in my gray sweats and black Chucks. Caused my Walkman to fall out of my pocket and ejected the Survivor tape init into a pool of water. I was yelling, "Adrian, Adrian!!!" No one came to help.AFCAT wrote:mslacatfan wrote:I hate being negative, but...
looking at that live feed, all I can think about is how hideous those stands look... are those rusted pieces of crap even safe to stand on at this point?
I'm excited to see the new turf though!
They are ugly, but the surface rust on the bleachers themselves doesn't necessarily mean the stands are structurally deficient or at risk of collapse.
So they need to be replaced.
Well, "there is no easy way out" of this. Next time, "If your hearts on fire" and you want to be athletic, you need to head over to Wyoming (just pretend it's Russia) and run up a snowy mountain in the middle of the winter. Wear a bomber jacket and boots. I can guarantee that you won't fall through the mountain and it will be much harder than running up those dilapidated stands. Just watch out for the pesky fake Russians.
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Looks like the new turf is going in! Yes, I watch the feed. I have no life.
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Looks like the end zones will be blue. Or is that some kind of lining?
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TomCat88 wrote:Looks like the end zones will be blue. Or is that some kind of lining?
I was wondering the same thing. Do they sew in the letters separately?
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Or are the letters painted?AFCAT wrote:TomCat88 wrote:Looks like the end zones will be blue. Or is that some kind of lining?
I was wondering the same thing. Do they sew in the letters separately?
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