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Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (18 Verbals)

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:37 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:In-state recruiting war in full swing for Cats, Griz
http://skylinesportsmt.com/in-state-rec ... grizzlies/
Is it really a war? Most in-state players end up going to the school they've always rooted for. Most of the rest go to the school offering their desired degree. The coaches make strong efforts, but it usually boils down to those two factors when the dust settles. They're aren't too many players that don't fit into one of those categories.


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Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (18 Verbals)

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:29 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:In-state recruiting war in full swing for Cats, Griz
http://skylinesportsmt.com/in-state-rec ... grizzlies/
Is it really a war? Most in-state players end up going to the school they've always rooted for. Most of the rest go to the school offering their desired degree. The coaches make strong efforts, but it usually boils down to those two factors when the dust settles. They're aren't too many players that don't fit into one of those categories.
The story states all those things. Poor headline.



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Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (18 Verbals)

Post by VimSince03 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:09 pm

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
TomCat88 wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:In-state recruiting war in full swing for Cats, Griz
http://skylinesportsmt.com/in-state-rec ... grizzlies/
Is it really a war? Most in-state players end up going to the school they've always rooted for. Most of the rest go to the school offering their desired degree. The coaches make strong efforts, but it usually boils down to those two factors when the dust settles. They're aren't too many players that don't fit into one of those categories.
The story states all those things. Poor headline.
Seems like the true "battles" these days are over the PWO kids and its between all of Montana. If the kids get a scholarship offer from the school they are a fan of, they are going to take it and go there about 95% of the time. But convincing a kid to take the risk of walking on to a FCS school because of their potential instead of taking a full-ride from a Frontier school is a tough proposition in certain situations. There also is that fine line between "can we get these kids with only a PWO offer because they want to go to our school" or "do we have to offer a partial to compete for them". Let's put it this way, if a kid like Luke Gonsioroski only receives a PWO offer from both in-state schools, the school that gets him will be getting the equivalent of a 1st round draft pick going in the 4th round.


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Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (18 Verbals)

Post by kwcat » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:22 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
TomCat88 wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:In-state recruiting war in full swing for Cats, Griz
http://skylinesportsmt.com/in-state-rec ... grizzlies/
Is it really a war? Most in-state players end up going to the school they've always rooted for. Most of the rest go to the school offering their desired degree. The coaches make strong efforts, but it usually boils down to those two factors when the dust settles. They're aren't too many players that don't fit into one of those categories.
The story states all those things. Poor headline.
Seems like the true "battles" these days are over the PWO kids and its between all of Montana. If the kids get a scholarship offer from the school they are a fan of, they are going to take it and go there about 95% of the time. But convincing a kid to take the risk of walking on to a FCS school because of their potential instead of taking a full-ride from a Frontier school is a tough proposition in certain situations.
Am I wrong, or did Nate Dick come from a predominant MSU family?

The majority of Brady Gustafson's family I am familiar with were Cat fans.

So there definitely seems to be a flux of swayable athletes. The question would be where in the process and age of the athlete that the biggest difference is made?



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Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (18 Verbals)

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:32 pm

kwcat wrote:
VimSince03 wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
TomCat88 wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:In-state recruiting war in full swing for Cats, Griz
http://skylinesportsmt.com/in-state-rec ... grizzlies/
Is it really a war? Most in-state players end up going to the school they've always rooted for. Most of the rest go to the school offering their desired degree. The coaches make strong efforts, but it usually boils down to those two factors when the dust settles. They're aren't too many players that don't fit into one of those categories.
The story states all those things. Poor headline.
Seems like the true "battles" these days are over the PWO kids and its between all of Montana. If the kids get a scholarship offer from the school they are a fan of, they are going to take it and go there about 95% of the time. But convincing a kid to take the risk of walking on to a FCS school because of their potential instead of taking a full-ride from a Frontier school is a tough proposition in certain situations.
Am I wrong, or did Nate Dick come from a predominant MSU family?

The majority of Brady Gustafson's family I am familiar with were Cat fans.

So there definitely seems to be a flux of swayable athletes. The question would be where in the process and age of the athlete that the biggest difference is made?
Gustafson received no offer from Montana State. He would have likely come to the Bobcats but the former staff never expressed any interest in him.



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Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (18 Verbals)

Post by VimSince03 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:34 pm

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
kwcat wrote:
VimSince03 wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
TomCat88 wrote:
Colter_Nuanez wrote:In-state recruiting war in full swing for Cats, Griz
http://skylinesportsmt.com/in-state-rec ... grizzlies/
Is it really a war? Most in-state players end up going to the school they've always rooted for. Most of the rest go to the school offering their desired degree. The coaches make strong efforts, but it usually boils down to those two factors when the dust settles. They're aren't too many players that don't fit into one of those categories.
The story states all those things. Poor headline.
Seems like the true "battles" these days are over the PWO kids and its between all of Montana. If the kids get a scholarship offer from the school they are a fan of, they are going to take it and go there about 95% of the time. But convincing a kid to take the risk of walking on to a FCS school because of their potential instead of taking a full-ride from a Frontier school is a tough proposition in certain situations.
Am I wrong, or did Nate Dick come from a predominant MSU family?

The majority of Brady Gustafson's family I am familiar with were Cat fans.

So there definitely seems to be a flux of swayable athletes. The question would be where in the process and age of the athlete that the biggest difference is made?
Gustafson received no offer from Montana State. He would have likely come to the Bobcats but the former staff never expressed any interest in him.
Same year we landed Dakota Prukop.


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Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (18 Verbals)

Post by kwcat » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:49 pm

" Gustafson received no offer from Montana State. He would have likely come to the Bobcats but the former staff never expressed any interest in him. "


"Same year we landed Dakota Prukop."

Right. Brady didn't fit our parameters at the time. And of course Dakota, as good as his film looked, was an unknown until he won the QB battle.

Nonetheless, Colter , I do agree with your article title. Some kids are "dyed in the wool". Others are swayable. The question would be when is that decision made?

On another note, I ran into a Yellowstone County area coach this weekend. He commented on my MSU shirt and made it clear he was a Missoula fan. He then went onto
commenting on how well MSU has performed as of late in the recruiting game. He couldn't say enough positive about BJ for one. He also commented that if Choate can fit the last piece of the puzzle, an offense, Montana State will be a force.



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Re: 2017 MSU Recruiting (18 Verbals)

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:07 pm

Fairly certain that Nate Dick's family is Griz.


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Post by kwcat » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:11 pm

TomCat88 wrote:Fairly certain that Nate Dick's family is Griz.
Tom, I may have that wrong thus the question mark. A poster here had said that there was plenty of Cat gear that wouldn't be worn in that household any longer.
I also wondered how much influence came with the Demming friendships. No actual knowledge on my part.



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Post by bcats » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:32 pm

Nate Dick's Family were not Griz fans. That I am sure has changed. If he plays for the Ravens later on it might be harder to convert from the Black and Gold.


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Post by kwcat » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:48 pm

bcats wrote:Nate Dick's Family were not Griz fans. That I am sure has changed. If he plays for the Ravens later on it might be harder to convert from the Black and Gold.
What do you think were Nate's deciding factors on Missoula?



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Post by rollo_tumasi » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:09 pm

MSU was not as active as many believe on Nate. In fact his family was kind of confused with how he was treated on one of his visits(this was 2nd hand info, but a very good source!). I really do believe his relationship with the Deming Brothers was the deal maker in the end.


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Post by iaafan » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:23 pm

[quote="rollo_tumasi"]MSU was not as active as many believe on Nate. In fact his family was kind of confused with how he was treated on one of his visits(this was 2nd hand info, but a very good source!). I really do believe his relationship with the Deming Brothers was the deal maker in the end.[/quote]

How was he treated?



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Post by kwcat » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:11 pm

rollo_tumasi wrote:MSU was not as active as many believe on Nate. In fact his family was kind of confused with how he was treated on one of his visits(this was 2nd hand info, but a very good source!). I really do believe his relationship with the Deming Brothers was the deal maker in the end.

This is what I gathered with the small amount of information I had as well. (and all second and third hand.)

Thought he would've made a good, shifty, tough slot if qb wouldn't have worked out.

Sounds like we did offer a partial, but maybe we didn't pursue him very hard for whatever reason.



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Post by wbtfg » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:03 pm

New boom from 406 according to BJ.


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Post by Counter Assault » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:07 pm

wbtfg wrote:New boom from 406 according to BJ.
yeah, that was a particularly animated and colorful Boom. Did we steal The Griz's Dick back?



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Post by autocat » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:08 pm

How many players ultimate decision comes down to where their buddies are going? Seems unusual that his final decision comes down that, for a partial scholarship?



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Post by Hawks86 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:20 pm

It simply came down to the fact that he liked Monte more than Champ. Thanks alot Champ. :twisted:


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Post by Counter Assault » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:25 pm

Monte bats the other way.



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Post by VimSince03 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:14 am

Added Peyton!


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