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Re: Wagner

Post by KittieKop » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:10 pm

I don't want to get off into the weeds like years ago and debate left hand quarterbacks versus righties and rotation of passes, but....I'm not a receiver, never was. But is there some logic with receivers like was mentioned for running backs? Is there anything to be said about getting into a rhythm, about having troubles catching those ones that hit you in the hands because you never really know how the passes are coming in, high, low, bouncing in? I mean, there's been some excitement about the receivers coming in the past few years, but this "drops" thing continues. Is there a connection to inconsistent QB play, and receivers struggling to "get in a groove"?


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Re: Wagner

Post by Long Time Cat » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:06 pm

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Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:10 pm
I don't want to get off into the weeds like years ago and debate left hand quarterbacks versus righties and rotation of passes, but....I'm not a receiver, never was. But is there some logic with receivers like was mentioned for running backs? Is there anything to be said about getting into a rhythm, about having troubles catching those ones that hit you in the hands because you never really know how the passes are coming in, high, low, bouncing in? I mean, there's been some excitement about the receivers coming in the past few years, but this "drops" thing continues. Is there a connection to inconsistent QB play, and receivers struggling to "get in a groove"?
I was wondering the same thing. Not enough reps to get in a groove seems logical to me. I’m hoping Anderson gets and stays healthy and we start to see the receivers get those reps.


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Re: Wagner

Post by CelticCat » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:13 pm

Well if we compete some of those passes and actually flex our passing muscles, SDSU probably stops loading 9 in the box, which would’ve opened the run game a bit.

Doubtful we win regardless but SDSU never respected our pass, never had to.


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Re: Wagner

Post by exppi » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:49 pm

CelticCat wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:13 pm
Well if we compete some of those passes and actually flex our passing muscles, SDSU probably stops loading 9 in the box, which would’ve opened the run game a bit.

Doubtful we win regardless but SDSU never respected our pass, never had to.
I was hitting my head against the table when the first 3 plays in the WIU game were run, run, run. Teams are going to load the box if we don't have a passing game.



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Re: Wagner

Post by catbooster » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:39 am

KittieKop wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:10 pm
I don't want to get off into the weeds like years ago and debate left hand quarterbacks versus righties and rotation of passes, but....I'm not a receiver, never was. But is there some logic with receivers like was mentioned for running backs? Is there anything to be said about getting into a rhythm, about having troubles catching those ones that hit you in the hands because you never really know how the passes are coming in, high, low, bouncing in? I mean, there's been some excitement about the receivers coming in the past few years, but this "drops" thing continues. Is there a connection to inconsistent QB play, and receivers struggling to "get in a groove"?
I also wonder if starting a new QB affected the (dropped) catches. The delivery is a little different for each QB. It could be that the revolving door on which QB starts has a small, but noticeable effect.



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Re: Wagner

Post by iaafan » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:09 am

Well if new qb has an effect then so does new WR. Patterson and Jonsen are both new. I suspect it more lack of focus and jitters than anything else.

Just be glad all these things happened to a team that was favored to beat us than one we were supposed to beat, but then lost to because of drops, injured QB, sick coach.



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Re: Wagner

Post by catbooster » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:38 am

iaafan wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:09 am
Well if new qb has an effect then so does new WR. Patterson and Jonsen are both new. I suspect it more lack of focus and jitters than anything else.

Just be glad all these things happened to a team that was favored to beat us than one we were supposed to beat, but then lost to because of drops, injured QB, sick coach.
Agreed. That game was ugly, but I'm hoping it was just a confluence of a lot of little things that snowballed into one of those bad games that happens sometimes. I'm sure it pointed out lots of things for the coaches and players to work on. At the risk of being accused of burying my head in the sand, I'm not going to obsess over it since I can't do anything about it anyway.

Bottom line, if you're going to have a game like that, this was the game for it - early in the season against one of the top teams. Despite that game, all of our goals for this season are still attainable (unless you thought a realistic goal for this season was an undefeated season). Hopefully, the coaches and team are able to use it as a learning experience and come out stronger because of it.



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Re: Wagner

Post by Long Time Cat » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:39 am

It would be ideal for Andersen to get in about 20-25 passes and Rovig 10-15 in this game against Wagner. And also Baumann to come in for a series or two at the end. For no other reason than it means we are winning big!


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Re: Wagner

Post by iaafan » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:07 am

Yes that’d be ideal. TA for a half and first drive of second half. Get settled into being a QB. 13 for 20, 180 yards two tds.

Agree that the goals are still their like cat booster says, unless you thought we’d go 11-0. Most people said 8-3/7-4, so we played like crap with a third string frosh QB, 2x4 receivers and a sick coach agsinst the #3 team in the nation.



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Re: Wagner

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Re: Wagner

Post by RobertCats » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:34 am

Hawks86 wrote:
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Nice, first game with the new blue & gold combo. Although, I LOVED last years Military Apprec uniforms!



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Re: Wagner

Post by StatedImprovement » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:16 pm

With those uniforms, there is no way the Cats don't show massive improvement



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Re: Wagner

Post by codecat » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:37 pm

Edited:
TA at QB...MSU 17 - Wagner 21
TA at LB...MSU 21 - Wagner 17



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Re: Wagner

Post by StatedImprovement » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:24 pm

MSU 34
Wagner 24



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Re: Wagner

Post by Bobcatsinmso » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:14 pm

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Re: Wagner

Post by FTG247365 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:52 pm

iaafan wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:07 am
Yes that’d be ideal. TA for a half and first drive of second half. Get settled into being a QB. 13 for 20, 180 yards two tds.

Agree that the goals are still their like cat booster says, unless you thought we’d go 11-0. Most people said 8-3/7-4, so we played like crap with a third string frosh QB, 2x4 receivers and a sick coach agsinst the #3 team in the nation.
Is Casey Bauman hurt? I would to see him get a few snaps.



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Re: Wagner

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Re: Wagner

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:55 am

MSU Bobcats 30
Wagner Seahawks 14

Their ace running back gets away from us a little, but Bailey hits for 12.



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Re: Wagner

Post by RickRund » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:44 am

BOBCATS...............30
Wagner,...........................17



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Re: Wagner

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