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Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:41 pm
by Pecos24
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:22 pm
by PapaG
Counts was also prohibited from drinking and from entering places that serve alcohol.
The Missoula County Attorney’s Office filed a petition to revoke Counts’ deferred sentence Friday afternoon, saying he failed to abide by the no-alcohol condition and didn't follow the laws during his deferral period.
The student athlete code of conduct states that violating a term of probation or other condition imposed by a court in a criminal proceeding is a Category II violation. A second Category II violation is punishable by suspension from 30 percent of all games.
If Counts is convicted of a misdemeanor DUI, it would be his third Category II violation of the student athlete conduct code, which calls for a dismissal from the football team.
Looks like he's screwed by violating his probation. Failure to comply is basically the same thing as a positive test.
Paul Ryan on speed dial, please! I wonder if every Griz player has his number in their phones. Time for some more pro bono hours, I suppose.
http://www.montanakaimin.com/news/the-l ... 6f485.html
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:12 pm
by wbtfg
He's still on the team? Seems like he's been there forever.
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Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:28 pm
by PapaG
wbtfg wrote:He's still on the team? Seems like he's been there forever.
I know. You'd think in Stitt's world, a non-producing 23 year-old who is on probation and a scholarship would have been shown the door by now. Sure he averages 5.4 a carry in 5 games. Wait ... hmmm
I guess that only applies to Montana kids who don't get into legal trouble?
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:27 pm
by GRIZ1STCATS2ND
If guilty.....see ya.
We don't need you here. "There" I guess for Cat fans.
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:13 pm
by PapaG
GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:If guilty.....see ya.
We don't need you here. "There" I guess for Cat fans.
He already violated his probation but refusing consent for a BAC test, so he's guilty already isn't he? He may do jail time. The DUI, well, Paul Ryan will probably be able to get him out of it. Or maybe not if Stitt decides to cut ties and Ryan has no reason to keep him eligible.
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:34 pm
by Cataholic
GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:If guilty.....see ya.
We don't need you here. "There" I guess for Cat fans.
Your comments, whether jokingly or not, are one of the reasons Griz football has a bad reputation. DUI is a serious offense and a person with two prior incidents should be looked at extra hard. Your flippant comments furher put the Griz program in a negative light..
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:48 am
by GRIZ1STCATS2ND
Cataholic wrote:GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:If guilty.....see ya.
We don't need you here. "There" I guess for Cat fans.
Your comments, whether jokingly or not, are one of the reasons Griz football has a bad reputation. DUI is a serious offense and a person with two prior incidents should be looked at extra hard. Your flippant comments furher put the Griz program in a negative light..
How so? Because I don't think this crap should be tolerated anywhere?
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:23 pm
by Cataholic
GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:Cataholic wrote:GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:If guilty.....see ya.
We don't need you here. "There" I guess for Cat fans.
Your comments, whether jokingly or not, are one of the reasons Griz football has a bad reputation. DUI is a serious offense and a person with two prior incidents should be looked at extra hard. Your flippant comments furher put the Griz program in a negative light..
How so? Because I don't think this crap should be tolerated anywhere?
Your exact statement "If guilty" sums up the Griz fan approach to Jordan Johnson, Beau Donaldson and a plethora of other incidents over the past decade. This incident was a third criminal infraction for this individual and the latest at 3:00 am in the morning for a DUI. Of course Griz nation can always lean on the "if guilty" notion because the rules don't apply for your players. If that is not what you meant, please explain, because that is what we have to come expect from Griz fans as of late.
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:07 pm
by GRIZ1STCATS2ND
Cataholic wrote:GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:Cataholic wrote:GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:If guilty.....see ya.
We don't need you here. "There" I guess for Cat fans.
Your comments, whether jokingly or not, are one of the reasons Griz football has a bad reputation. DUI is a serious offense and a person with two prior incidents should be looked at extra hard. Your flippant comments furher put the Griz program in a negative light..
How so? Because I don't think this crap should be tolerated anywhere?
Your exact statement "If guilty" sums up the Griz fan approach to Jordan Johnson, Beau Donaldson and a plethora of other incidents over the past decade. This incident was a third criminal infraction for this individual and the latest at 3:00 am in the morning for a DUI. Of course Griz nation can always lean on the "if guilty" notion because the rules don't apply for your players. If that is not what you meant, please explain, because that is what we have to come expect from Griz fans as of late.
I hear you. I chose those words because I live in The United States of America, not because I (personally) think he shouldn't get his sorry ass booted off the team.
I'm not a judge, and I don't play one on TV. Just so you know, I would have worded my initial response just the same had the player in question been a Cat or a Lumberjack. But not a Bison. Screw them.
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:40 pm
by Grizaddict
What happened to Cats' Marcus Tappan after his recent DUI. Still with team? Not sure Joey will get to stick around. The Student Athlete Code will dictate his punishment.
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:30 am
by lutecat
Whether he gets a dui or not I think it's hard for him to argue he wasn't drinking. Which violates his probation. I don't know that he gets kicked odd the team because I think Stitt would've done so already if he was going to. Of course if the dui does stick, I think he's done per the student conduct code.
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Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:25 am
by iaafan
The courts will sort it out. Everyone deserves their day in court.
As for the team aspect it isn't good, but would it be fair to cut a player over something like this? On one hand, he didn't commit a violent crime. There was a potential for someone to get injured or even killed, but that fortunately didn't happen. On the other, does allowing this to go unpunished (I don't consider running to be punishment) increase the chances of it happening again and then having a much worse outcome.
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:25 am
by tdub
iaafan wrote:The courts will sort it out. Everyone deserves their day in court.
As for the team aspect it isn't good, but would it be fair to cut a player over something like this? On one hand, he didn't commit a violent crime. There was a potential for someone to get injured or even killed, but that fortunately didn't happen. On the other, does allowing this to go unpunished (I don't consider running to be punishment) increase the chances of it happening again and then having a much worse outcome.
Yes, it would be fair. This wasn't a one time mistake. He has been in trouble in the past and was on probation for that. He already had one of his days in court, and the court instructed him to follow certain guidelines. These were not 'team' restrictions...they were court restrictions. I'm all about about 2nd chances, and in my eyes he blew that chance. I wish him the best and hope this serves as a life lesson, but if I'm the coach he just lost the privilege he was given. At the end of the day it is not the coach's decision, it is their student code of conduct. Whatever that says is what happens.
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:06 pm
by luckyirishguy25
Grizaddict wrote:What happened to Cats' Marcus Tappan after his recent DUI. Still with team? Not sure Joey will get to stick around. The Student Athlete Code will dictate his punishment.
Last I heard he was suspended from the team, he isn't on the Roster so it's likely he's no longer with the team.
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:47 pm
by Grizaddict
luckyirishguy25 wrote:Grizaddict wrote:What happened to Cats' Marcus Tappan after his recent DUI. Still with team? Not sure Joey will get to stick around. The Student Athlete Code will dictate his punishment.
Last I heard he was suspended from the team, he isn't on the Roster so it's likely he's no longer with the team.
Thanks for the feedback. I saw where Choate suspended him, but I was thinking it was pending the outcome of the investigation or hearing. I had never heard what was the final outcome.
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:23 am
by iaafan
Last I heard Tappan was still trying to work his way back onto the team. I would guess that isn't happening if he wasn't here working out with the team all summer. Anyone seen him? Tappan was accused of breaking into a home when he was at Cincinnati and kicked off the team, but he was later exonerated. So his DUI was his first known run-in with the law. I think it was up to him and how he responded to being suspended that determined whether he'd be back on the team or not.
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:16 pm
by catatac
Sounds like Counts is practicing....
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:44 am
by Cataholic
catatac wrote:
Sounds like Counts is practicing....
So help me out Griz posters. Is this part of Stitts accountability that he demands from players?
Re: Griz RB arrested for DUI
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:04 am
by tdub
Cataholic wrote:catatac wrote:
Sounds like Counts is practicing....
So help me out Griz posters. Is this part of Stitts accountability that he demands from players?
I'm not a griz poster but I'll help. Suspension normally means game time. Still have to practice. Non issue.