The Romans and the griz

ABQCat · Post by **ABQCat** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:46 pm

I’m sitting here on vacation and instead of enjoying 90 degree sunshine, I’m at my computer thinking up a smack thread. Go figure. I’m sure many of thought about this too, so I decided to put fingers to keyboard and see where this went…

Roman (60BC – 14AD): Caesar and his line (Augustus/ Octavius) bring great prosperity and expansion to the Roman Empire including the perfect execution of the government known as the Rebublic. With many conquests including the first ever total control of Gaul, and the conquering and total submission of the superpower Egypt.
Griz (1986 – 1995): Don Read brings great prosperity and expansion to UM including the perfect execution of the Passing Game. The griz have many conquests including the first ever National Championship by conquering the superpower of Marshall.

R (14AD – 37AD): Augustus finally dies and the general Tiberius becomes Emperor. Tiberius is able to continue the Roman tradition and maintain the growth and prosperity of the empire. With no major conquests Tiberius is eventually murdered.
G (1996 – 1999): Reid finally goes away after 10 years and his OC Dennehy becomes head coach. Dennehy continues the winning tradition but fails to win a NC despite having arguably the best griz team ever (1996, 14-1), but then left and has his coaching career murdered at Utah State (19-37 before fired)

(As an aside, not everything went perfectly for the Roman Empire even during their height of their prosperity. There was a story when an un-kept and raw Thracian warrior by the name of Spartacus (Kramer), who went on a rampage against the Empire. He relied on the era’s greatest warrior and field general by the name of Crixus (Lulay) to win many battles up and down the Roman Empire (3 wins in 4 years) including the actual conquering of Rome itself (WaG Bobcat win in 2002). Alas, the Empire again took back control and (temporarily) continued the reign.)

R (37AD – 41AD): Another short lived emperor that many considered to be mad, Caligula was merely trying to stay alive during the whole time as emperor despite his successes. He was eventually murdered.
G (2000 – 2002): Joe Glenn was considered to be mad (by me when I saw him flip off the NM student body at a Wyoming/NM football game). Glenn was eventually left despite winning a NC, and had the football coach equivalent of being murdered when he accepted a job at Wyoming.

R (41AD – 68AD): The Claudius line begins with many conquests, including a successful invasion of Britain and the founding of London. However, this line becomes so caught up in their own incestuous and indulgence behavior that they become unaware of the world changing all around them. Claudius kills his own wife for the belief she is conspiring against him and then marries his own niece. His niece/wife then murders him. Their inbred son, Nero, becomes emperor and then orders the execution of his mom. Although the empire was prosperous during this time, nobody can really explain the incest and infighting going on, and history looks back at this age when the Romans became so self absorbed in their own indulgences that they failed to see that that the rest of the world was growing in strength and numbers in such a way that the Roman empire, as it was once known, will soon become irrelevant. Nero proved to be incredibly unpopular with the Roman citizens for many decisions and indulgences. This era was the height of the Roman orgy where the citizens could freely stroke each other and get each other off, and that was really what history remembers about this era in Roman history despite the many successes.
G (2003 – 2009): The Bobby Hauck was one of the most winning eras in griz football history, but is strangely remembered not for the 80 wins, but for the incessant complaining and entitlement talk by the fan base. The griz have become so self indulged that they fail to realize many teams investing in the infrastructure and building rival programs. Hauck is inexplicably run out of town primarily due to excessive sense of entitlement by the fan base and their belief they deserve to win the National Championship every year. This is the era that brought the height of the orgy know as eGriz.com, where the grizzlies can stroke each other and get each other off, continue their entitlement and inward thinking all the while they continue to be completely ignorant of the changing situation happening all around them.

R (68AD+): The Roman Empire begins its crumbling in earnest. They go through many emperors in a short amount of time, and soon simply start to blend into the rest of region. The reign of power and influence all but disappears over time. Although many in the Empire are in denial of the impending fate of the empire and continue in their self indugence, there are others that begin to foresee that they are losing influence and power as time goes on.
G (2010+): I think everybody knows where I’m going here, but I’ll spell it out anyway. The walls are now fully crumbling all around the griz. There are many fans that are still caught up in the entitlement paradigm and refuse to believe that we are witnessing the beginning of the end. Kudos to the few rational griz fans that can see the writing on the wall and now understand the reign is over. Almost every other program in the BSC is planning some type of upgrade or enhancement to the infrastructure, and gap between the different programs has closed down on the griz. Last year’s miracles (FG at PSU and hail mary pass to beat NAU at home) aren’t going to keep going like they have in the past. Without those two miracles, the griz would have finished with only 5 wins last year, and they could easily finish with only 5 or 6 wins this year.

It’s over.

cats2506 · Post by **cats2506** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:40 pm

This does not belong in smack, It should be required reading for all who join this board

GrizinWashington · Post by **GrizinWashington** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:02 pm

Wow.

That is some serious envy.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:14 pm

That's simply way too much awesome for one single post.

Hawks86 · Post by **Hawks86** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:42 pm

Thanks ginwa. I now understand that all the smack posted by you and others on that other site is just envy.

That's alot of envy.

Cu-Ag-Au · Post by **Cu-Ag-Au** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:12 pm

You should send this to Dick O'Day. He is of the opinion that if this, if that, the Griz would have gone undefeated. Seriously.

classicat · Post by **classicat** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:54 am

Wow! Brilliant!

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:39 am

Bravo!

Common Cat · Post by **Common Cat** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:22 am

GrizinWashington wrote:Wow.

That is some serious envy.

Done Deal???

TIrwin24 · Post by **TIrwin24** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:38 pm

That was some great work!

GiW is one of those morons that refuses to accept that the griz empire has fully crumbled to the ground

classicat · Post by **classicat** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:14 pm

I may be setting myself up to get slammed here, but as much as I LOVE ABQCat's initial post, it would do well for all of us to consider the example of our biggest rival and recognize that Pride Cometh Before a Fall. It happened to them, let's be careful to not let it happen to us.

ABQCat · Post by **ABQCat** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:58 pm

ABQCat wrote: R (68AD+): The Roman Empire begins its crumbling in earnest. They go through many emperors in a short amount of time, and soon simply start to blend into the rest of region. The reign of power and influence all but disappears over time. Although many in the Empire are in denial of the impending fate of the empire and continue in their self indugence, there are others that begin to foresee that they are losing influence and power as time goes on.

I did predict part of the griz' eventual demise will include going through many coaches in a short amount of time. I just thought I'd throw that out there.

MSUcantouchus · Post by **MSUcantouchus** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:44 pm

Hmm, this is not bad, but seriously get your vacation on. You may have officially lost it!

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Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:23 pm

ABQCat wrote: Without those two miracles, the griz would have finished with only 5 wins last year, and they could easily finish with only 5 or 6 wins this year.

It’s over.

5 or 6 wins or maybe 11 including that great beatdown in bozo

TIrwin24 · Post by **TIrwin24** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:05 am

a little late the the party aren't we there ECG? Considering this post was from almost a year ago...

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:13 am

Eastcoastgriz wrote:
ABQCat wrote: Without those two miracles, the griz would have finished with only 5 wins last year, and they could easily finish with only 5 or 6 wins this year.

It’s over.

5 or 6 wins or maybe 11 including that great beatdown in bozo

Overlooked the recent posts????

MashTun · Post by **MashTun** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:28 pm

Hilarious.....Bravo!

ABQCat · Post by **ABQCat** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:56 am

Eastcoastgriz wrote:
Eastcoastgriz wrote:
ABQCat wrote: Without those two miracles, the griz would have finished with only 5 wins last year, and they could easily finish with only 5 or 6 wins this year.

It’s over.

5 or 6 wins or maybe 11 including that great beatdown in bozo
Overlooked the recent posts????

Let me give you a history lesson ECG. Try to keep up this time.

The collapse of the Roman Empire didn't happen overnight. Most point to the reign of Nero as the embodiment of the collapse, but there we good times even during this lunatic’s regime. In fact, early on Nero tried to embody as much as he could of the Augustus era and was perceived to be level headed and mature. Nothing could have been further from the truth, and this simply allowed the naive Roman populous to ignore the fact that the walls were crumbling around them in full force. Again, the most striking element of the whole collapse of the Roman Empire was the fact the people simply didn't get it while it was happening. They chose instead to place their pride on various conquests by the military going on simultaneously or how beautiful their city was, and of course they continued in their self-indulgence.

The grizzly program is now going through a perfectly analogous systematic crumbling. I didn't know about most of the current scandals going on when I wrote my original post, but it actually lines up perfectly. Many naïve fans have been able to wrap themselves around an 11 win season and are choosing to ignore the startling reality playing out all around them. Forgetting for a minute the full scope of the fallout with these scandals (which could be significant), you guys have an interim coach in a year with tremendous turnover and a brutal schedule. USD, @App St, Liberty, NAU, and @EWU are all losable games. You are going feel what like to not fill up the stands and watch your backlog for season tickets all but evaporate. And there will be turncoats…lots of turncoats. These will mostly come from Billings (where you didn’t even go this spring) and Great Falls who simply decide they want to go watch the Bobcats in Bozeman instead. These will not be the select view that read forums like this, but the fans that get what they know from the newspaper.

Go ahead and keep your head in the sand if you want. History says you will.

ABQCat · Post by **ABQCat** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:23 am

I keep hoping more people would want to play along with this thread. I could be writing volumes on this subject but I'm holding back. Here's another example that will hopefully get the ball rolling with some other posters that enjoy Roman history:

Pflugrad is actaully Nero. Recall that during a time when fires were ravaging Rome in 64AD, it is believed the Nero just simply played his violin and let everything burn to the ground. Ultimately, Nero's own Senate finally turned on him and flogged him to death in 68AD.

LongTimeCatFan · Post by **LongTimeCatFan** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:38 pm

I really like this thread. It is very informative. I like history lessons applied to current events. So go on and write your volumes. I'll read it.