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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by iaafan » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 am

allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm
Good luck to her. She's a courageous girl. =D^
Couldn't work in any more female pronouns?
Well you said, “I actually think it is disrespectful to those of us that grew up with boys being boys. I think he is not a she, just a confused guy.”



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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by hokeyfine » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:27 pm

allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm
Good luck to her. She's a courageous girl. =D^
Couldn't work in any more female pronouns?
I can try if you'd like..... doesn't change the support.



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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by allcat » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:45 pm

iaafan wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 am
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm
Good luck to her. She's a courageous girl. =D^
Couldn't work in any more female pronouns?
Well you said, “I actually think it is disrespectful to those of us that grew up with boys being boys. I think he is not a she, just a confused guy.”
So if you work in three pronouns it enhances your argument? Is that the same as winning by yelling more?


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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by TomCat88 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:37 pm

allcat wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:45 pm
iaafan wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 am
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm
Good luck to her. She's a courageous girl. =D^
Couldn't work in any more female pronouns?
Well you said, “I actually think it is disrespectful to those of us that grew up with boys being boys. I think he is not a she, just a confused guy.”
So if you work in three pronouns it enhances your argument? Is that the same as winning by yelling more?
I think you might've missed something.


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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by allcat » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:52 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:37 pm
allcat wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:45 pm
iaafan wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 am
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm
Good luck to her. She's a courageous girl. =D^
Couldn't work in any more female pronouns?
Well you said, “I actually think it is disrespectful to those of us that grew up with boys being boys. I think he is not a she, just a confused guy.”
So if you work in three pronouns it enhances your argument? Is that the same as winning by yelling more?
I think you might've missed something.
ok 2 pronouns and 1 noun. I guess you win.


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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by TomCat88 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:37 pm

allcat wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:37 pm
allcat wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:45 pm
iaafan wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 am
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm
Good luck to her. She's a courageous girl. =D^
Couldn't work in any more female pronouns?
Well you said, “I actually think it is disrespectful to those of us that grew up with boys being boys. I think he is not a she, just a confused guy.”
So if you work in three pronouns it enhances your argument? Is that the same as winning by yelling more?
I think you might've missed something.
ok 2 pronouns and 1 noun. I guess you win.
Not trying to win anything. I'm looking at what you said, not what hokeyfine said. You were pounding home the "us" "boys" "boys" "he" "she" "guy" pretty hard there.


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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by allcat » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:57 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:37 pm
allcat wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:37 pm
allcat wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:45 pm
iaafan wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 am
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm
Good luck to her. She's a courageous girl. =D^
Couldn't work in any more female pronouns?
Well you said, “I actually think it is disrespectful to those of us that grew up with boys being boys. I think he is not a she, just a confused guy.”
So if you work in three pronouns it enhances your argument? Is that the same as winning by yelling more?
I think you might've missed something.
ok 2 pronouns and 1 noun. I guess you win.
Not trying to win anything. I'm looking at what you said, not what hokeyfine said. You were pounding home the "us" "boys" "boys" "he" "she" "guy" pretty hard there.
I just felt I was making a simple statement. I thought the response was an attempt to use the pronouns to hammer the point. I am definitely not the wordsmith that you are and regret my post appearing to you that way.


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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by iaafan » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:25 am

allcat wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:45 pm
iaafan wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 am
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm
Good luck to her. She's a courageous girl. =D^
Couldn't work in any more female pronouns?
Well you said, “I actually think it is disrespectful to those of us that grew up with boys being boys. I think he is not a she, just a confused guy.”
So if you work in three pronouns it enhances your argument? Is that the same as winning by yelling more?
Read your own comment and then look at what you said to hokeyfine. You’re telling him to not do something right after you just basically did the same thing.



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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by allcat » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:42 am

iaafan wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:25 am
allcat wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:45 pm
iaafan wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 am
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm
Good luck to her. She's a courageous girl. =D^
Couldn't work in any more female pronouns?
Well you said, “I actually think it is disrespectful to those of us that grew up with boys being boys. I think he is not a she, just a confused guy.”
So if you work in three pronouns it enhances your argument? Is that the same as winning by yelling more?
Read your own comment and then look at what you said to hokeyfine. You’re telling him to not do something right after you just basically did the same thing.
I was just telling how I feel about being told I'm a bigot because I don't see something the same way. I just see the two statements in a little different light. I can see how someone would see the same thing, although I see it differently. I always find it hard to correctly convey my thoughts while writing.


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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by iaafan » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:18 pm

allcat wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:42 am
iaafan wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:25 am
allcat wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:45 pm
iaafan wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 am
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm
Good luck to her. She's a courageous girl. =D^
Couldn't work in any more female pronouns?
Well you said, “I actually think it is disrespectful to those of us that grew up with boys being boys. I think he is not a she, just a confused guy.”
So if you work in three pronouns it enhances your argument? Is that the same as winning by yelling more?
Read your own comment and then look at what you said to hokeyfine. You’re telling him to not do something right after you just basically did the same thing.
I was just telling how I feel about being told I'm a bigot because I don't see something the same way. I just see the two statements in a little different light. I can see how someone would see the same thing, although I see it differently. I always find it hard to correctly convey my thoughts while writing.
I don’t see where you were called a bigot. All I see is you responding for the first time in this thread to lute cat, who didn’t call you a bigot. The when hokey said good luck to her in an innocuous way, you asked a seemingly sarcastic question. He made his comment AFTER you used all kinds of pronouns. It’s audacious that you questioned hokey after the comment you made.



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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by HelenaCat95 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:49 pm

If I don't identify as a bigot, does that still make me a bigot?



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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by MSU01 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:09 pm

I think it's awesome that the NCAA has developed guidelines to allow transgender athletes to compete fairly. I was curious about the race times so looked up the 2018 Big Sky Outdoor Championships - Eastwood finished 7th in the Men's 1500 meters in a time that was over 30 seconds faster than the winner of the Women's 1500 ran. Clearly there has been a drop in performance there to show that she's not trying to take advantage of the system in any way. Best of luck to her - except when racing against MSU as someone else said!


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Re: A transgender now on the um women's xcountry

Post by hokeyfine » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:12 pm

allcat wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:57 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:37 pm
allcat wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:37 pm
allcat wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:45 pm
iaafan wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 am
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:17 pm
Good luck to her. She's a courageous girl. =D^
Couldn't work in any more female pronouns?
Well you said, “I actually think it is disrespectful to those of us that grew up with boys being boys. I think he is not a she, just a confused guy.”
So if you work in three pronouns it enhances your argument? Is that the same as winning by yelling more?
I think you might've missed something.
ok 2 pronouns and 1 noun. I guess you win.
Not trying to win anything. I'm looking at what you said, not what hokeyfine said. You were pounding home the "us" "boys" "boys" "he" "she" "guy" pretty hard there.
I just felt I was making a simple statement. I thought the response was an attempt to use the pronouns to hammer the point. I am definitely not the wordsmith that you are and regret my post appearing to you that way.
not trying to hammer anything home. Just stating my support for her.



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