UND vs griz

[grizcountry420]

Outside of the early hiccups Jensen looked awesome. Don't want to jinx him, but he has a ton of weapons at his disposal and could end up being the best QB we've had since Dave. Just an awesome get by Stitt and co.

If Jensen looked awesome and could be the best QB since Dave, then Murray could be better than Dave based their performances against North Dakota.

Id take Jensen's 459 total yards of offense any day over Murray's 306 yards of offense.

Consider the opponent. Then have another toke.

Those were their totals when they played UND..

Oh ok. Then I'll have another toke... [emoji28]

Still not an accurate comparison. MSU had other RBs with lots of yards.
Plus und had their starting QB when we played them, from what I saw early in the griz game und couldn't get a first down.

yeah, UND couldn't move the ball even when we handed them all of those turnovers in the 1st quarter. They put in their starter in the 2nd half but by then it was too late. They produced 0 points off of our turnovers on Saturday

[Hawks86]

Outside of the early hiccups Jensen looked awesome. Don't want to jinx him, but he has a ton of weapons at his disposal and could end up being the best QB we've had since Dave. Just an awesome get by Stitt and co.

If Jensen looked awesome and could be the best QB since Dave, then Murray could be better than Dave based their performances against North Dakota.

Id take Jensen's 459 total yards of offense any day over Murray's 306 yards of offense.

Consider the opponent. Then have another toke.

Those were their totals when they played UND..

Oh ok. Then I'll have another toke... [emoji28]

Still not an accurate comparison. MSU had other RBs with lots of yards.
Plus und had their starting QB when we played them, from what I saw early in the griz game und couldn't get a first down.

yeah, UND couldn't move the ball even when we handed them all of those turnovers in the 1st quarter. They put in their starter in the 2nd half but by then it was too late. They produced 0 points off of our turnovers on Saturday

Zimmerman is not Studsrud.

[HelenaCat]

Outside of the early hiccups Jensen looked awesome. Don't want to jinx him, but he has a ton of weapons at his disposal and could end up being the best QB we've had since Dave. Just an awesome get by Stitt and co.

If Jensen looked awesome and could be the best QB since Dave, then Murray could be better than Dave based their performances against North Dakota.

Id take Jensen's 459 total yards of offense any day over Murray's 306 yards of offense.

Consider the opponent. Then have another toke.

Those were their totals when they played UND..

Oh ok. Then I'll have another toke... [emoji28]

Still not an accurate comparison. MSU had other RBs with lots of yards.
Plus und had their starting QB when we played them, from what I saw early in the griz game und couldn't get a first down.

yeah, UND couldn't move the ball even when we handed them all of those turnovers in the 1st quarter. They put in their starter in the 2nd half but by then it was too late. They produced 0 points off of our turnovers on Saturday

Zimmerman is not Studsrud.

Yeah, that was their 3rd string QB. I did not watch the whole game, but from what I saw in the first quarter, there is a huge drop-off after Studsrud. I was pretty surprised that und did not have someone that could at least throw the ball a little bit as their 2nd string.

[catatac]

Outside of the early hiccups Jensen looked awesome. Don't want to jinx him, but he has a ton of weapons at his disposal and could end up being the best QB we've had since Dave. Just an awesome get by Stitt and co.

Hmm. It's really hard to compare until you play a good or great team. If he tears it up against Weber, NAU, and MSU (Not sure about NoCo, haven't seen them play yet) then I'll become a believer.

[Htowngriz]

Outside of the early hiccups Jensen looked awesome. Don't want to jinx him, but he has a ton of weapons at his disposal and could end up being the best QB we've had since Dave. Just an awesome get by Stitt and co.

Hmm. It's really hard to compare until you play a good or great team. If he tears it up against Weber, NAU, and MSU (Not sure about NoCo, haven't seen them play yet) then I'll become a believer.

He tore it up against EWU in his first career start.

[iaafan]

He did not tear it up vs EWU. He was 25 for 49. Passer rating of 121.8 is virtually tied for second worst performance vs EWU this year. Yes, Murray is last. Average passer rating vs EWU is 139.7.

[Htowngriz]

Was Murray making his first career start against EWU, or did it just look that way?

[catatac]

Outside of the early hiccups Jensen looked awesome. Don't want to jinx him, but he has a ton of weapons at his disposal and could end up being the best QB we've had since Dave. Just an awesome get by Stitt and co.

Hmm. It's really hard to compare until you play a good or great team. If he tears it up against Weber, NAU, and MSU (Not sure about NoCo, haven't seen them play yet) then I'll become a believer.

He tore it up against EWU in his first career start.

I wouldn't call that "tearing it up", plus I"m not sure if EWU defense is that good. Let's wait and see how he does against Weber, NAU, and MSU. I predict you'll lose two of those games largely due to his mistakes. We're in the same boat in terms of growing pains with a young QB making young QB mistakes.

Out of curiosity I just looked back at the five Griz wins and wow, those teams are all bad. Total record for all five teams the Griz beat is 8-26 and not one of them have a winning record. Yes I know the Cats are pretty much in the same boat.

[Grizaddict]

I think Jensen is doing just fine



PASS EFFICIENCY. Cl G Comp-Att-Int Pct. Yards TD Long Effic.
1. MAIER, Jake-UCD SO 6 160 - 228 - 5 70.2 2052 14 75 161.7
2. JENSEN, Gresh-UM FR 7 109 - 178 - 6 61.2 1630 13 80 155.5
3. THOMSON, Kevin-SAC JR 6 75 - 139 - 3 54.0 1305 11 60 154.6
4. KNIPP,Jacob-NC JR 93 5. 148 - 4 62.8 1352 9 80 154.2
5. CANTWELL, S.-WSU SR 6 83 - 135 - 1 61.5 1227 7 67 153.5
6. JENKINS,Khaleel-CP JR 5 28 - 66 - 2 42.4 597 8 65 152.3
7. GUELLER, Tanner-ISU JR 7 130 - 224 - 5 58.0 1948 17 75 151.7
8. GUBRUD, Gage-EWU JR 7 198 - 304 - 8 65.1 2412 20 71 148.2
9. COOKUS, Case-NAU SO 6 146 - 241 - 3 60.6 1931 16 55 147.3
10. TYLER, Patrick-SUU SR 5 105 - 168 - 7 62.5 1315 10 96 139.6

[iaafan]

You've taken the conversation full circle. The initial point is that he hasn't faced good competition in ISU, PSU and UND. He has good numbers in those games, but in that offense against those teams who wouldn't? The point was let's see what happens when he plays teams with solid defense. My guess is Brady Gustafson had similar numbers against teams like that.

[iaafan]

[quote="Htowngriz"]Was Murray making his first career start against EWU, or did it just look that way?[/quote]


Like I said Murray is last in passer rating vs EWU. But no one was comparing Murray to Dave Dickenson.

[Cataholic]

Outside of the early hiccups Jensen looked awesome. Don't want to jinx him, but he has a ton of weapons at his disposal and could end up being the best QB we've had since Dave. Just an awesome get by Stitt and co.

Hmm. It's really hard to compare until you play a good or great team. If he tears it up against Weber, NAU, and MSU (Not sure about NoCo, haven't seen them play yet) then I'll become a believer.

He tore it up against EWU in his first career start.

Jensen was the second string quarterback not able to pass Phillips on the depth chart. He beats a hapless ND and PSU teams and he is somehow being mentioned in the same breath as Dave Dickenson. Classic delusional Griz fan.

[catatac]

Outside of the early hiccups Jensen looked awesome. Don't want to jinx him, but he has a ton of weapons at his disposal and could end up being the best QB we've had since Dave. Just an awesome get by Stitt and co.

Hmm. It's really hard to compare until you play a good or great team. If he tears it up against Weber, NAU, and MSU (Not sure about NoCo, haven't seen them play yet) then I'll become a believer.

He tore it up against EWU in his first career start.

Jensen was the second string quarterback not able to pass Phillips on the depth chart. He beats a hapless ND and PSU teams and he is somehow being mentioned in the same breath as Dave Dickenson. Classic delusional Griz fan.

Yep. If he throws three picks against a team that is even AVERAGE they'll be in trouble. Didn't matter against UND because everyone knows UND is just a really bad team.

[Htowngriz]

Outside of the early hiccups Jensen looked awesome. Don't want to jinx him, but he has a ton of weapons at his disposal and could end up being the best QB we've had since Dave. Just an awesome get by Stitt and co.

Hmm. It's really hard to compare until you play a good or great team. If he tears it up against Weber, NAU, and MSU (Not sure about NoCo, haven't seen them play yet) then I'll become a believer.

He tore it up against EWU in his first career start.

Jensen was the second string quarterback not able to pass Phillips on the depth chart. He beats a hapless ND and PSU teams and he is somehow being mentioned in the same breath as Dave Dickenson. Classic delusional Griz fan.

Typical illiterate cat fan. I willingly admitted he made some bad throws and freshman mistakes, but if you watch him and actually know how to evaluate a QB, you'll see that he has the tools and potential to be on the same level as DD.

[Grizaddict]

The poster is not that delusional. Chew on this for a minute:

10 best passing games by true or redshirt freshmen

Year Player Class Opp. C-A-I Yards TDs
2017 Gresch Jensen R-Fr. North Dakota 22-35-2 423 3
2017 Gresch Jensen R-Fr. Idaho State 23-35-0 360 4
2017 Gresch Jensen R-Fr. Eastern Wash. 25-49-1 358 2
2017 Gresch Jensen R-Fr. Portland State 23-38-2 284 1
1980 Marty Mornhinweg Fr. Eastern Wash. 9-20-0 186 4
2017 Gresch Jensen R-Fr. Savannah State 11-15-1 178 3
1980 Marty Mornhinweg Fr. Weber State 8-12-1 138 1
1992 Dave Dickenson R-Fr. Hofstra 8-19-2 129 1
1980 Marty Mornhinweg Fr. Idaho State 9-24-0 125 0
1980 Marty Mornhinweg Fr. Northern Ariz.

[Cataholic]

Outside of the early hiccups Jensen looked awesome. Don't want to jinx him, but he has a ton of weapons at his disposal and could end up being the best QB we've had since Dave. Just an awesome get by Stitt and co.

Hmm. It's really hard to compare until you play a good or great team. If he tears it up against Weber, NAU, and MSU (Not sure about NoCo, haven't seen them play yet) then I'll become a believer.

He tore it up against EWU in his first career start.

Jensen was the second string quarterback not able to pass Phillips on the depth chart. He beats a hapless ND and PSU teams and he is somehow being mentioned in the same breath as Dave Dickenson. Classic delusional Griz fan.

Typical illiterate cat fan. I willingly admitted he made some bad throws and freshman mistakes, but if you watch him and actually know how to evaluate a QB, you'll see that he has the tools and potential to be on the same level as DD.

So your John Gruden?? Didn’t realize that you were a QB guru. Apparently you are a better evaluator than Stitt since Jenson was not even going to see the field unless Phillips gets hurt. But according to you, Jensen is a worthy comparison to one of the greatest QB in Griz history.

As far as illiterate, what did I say above that would make me illiterate? I only replied to your stupid comment. Maybe you should stick to QB evaluation....oh wait, you suck at that too!

[iaafan]

The epitome of someone who knows absolutely nothing about football is the person who compares QB stats from the 80s to QB stats from 2017. Premature egizzulation.

[Cataholic]

The poster is not that delusional. Chew on this for a minute:

10 best passing games by true or redshirt freshmen

Year Player Class Opp. C-A-I Yards TDs
2017 Gresch Jensen R-Fr. North Dakota 22-35-2 423 3
2017 Gresch Jensen R-Fr. Idaho State 23-35-0 360 4
2017 Gresch Jensen R-Fr. Eastern Wash. 25-49-1 358 2
2017 Gresch Jensen R-Fr. Portland State 23-38-2 284 1
1980 Marty Mornhinweg Fr. Eastern Wash. 9-20-0 186 4
2017 Gresch Jensen R-Fr. Savannah State 11-15-1 178 3
1980 Marty Mornhinweg Fr. Weber State 8-12-1 138 1
1992 Dave Dickenson R-Fr. Hofstra 8-19-2 129 1
1980 Marty Mornhinweg Fr. Idaho State 9-24-0 125 0
1980 Marty Mornhinweg Fr. Northern Ariz.

So your standard for greatness as a redshirt freshman is 186 yards, 138 yards, 129 yards and 125 yards. According to your criteria, a QB with a pulse is the next Dave Dickenson. Since Murray was a true freshman last year, he must be destined for the NFL!!!